[MEncoder-users] Xvid parameter "cartoon"

[James Hastings-Trew]

Stjepan Brbot wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 17:11 -0600, James Hastings-Trew wrote:
>   
>> Stjepan Brbot wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> while encoding anime/cartoons one could use a xvid parameter "cartoon".
>>> According to documentation (unfortunately not detailed enough) this
>>> parameter adjusts Xvid encoding algorithm for anime/cartoons (taking
>>> into account specifics of cartoons). But could we be a little bit more
>>> specific about that!? There are actually two (different in terms of
>>> paining technique used) types of cartoons; older cartoons which use
>>> mostly solid color shapes, have sharp edges (lines) etc. and other new
>>> ones with full palette of colors, shades, 3D, looking like ordinary
>>> movies. Maybe it's not good to use "cartoon" parameter for such a
>>> cartoons although they actually are cartoons.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Totally a guess on my part - I speak with no authority on this matter. :)
>>
>> The problem with compressing anime isn't the flat colors or the sharp 
>> edges - it's the lack of natural movement from frame to frame at a 12 
>> fps frame rate for the hand drawn motion. I imagine that for anime you'd 
>> have to greatly expand the motion search radius to catch the large frame 
>> to frame movements of elements. Newer anime has more 24fps motion 
>> (because of more use of motion controlled cameras and CG elements) so 
>> the motions are more "movie like".
>>     
>
> I'm talking about new cartoons (or better to say animated movies, I
> don't know if term "cartoon" is used in English for one type of anime
> and animated movies for another one). I mean, I speak about Pixar's,
> Disney's and DreamWorks' animated movies which look more like regular
> movies than old classic Donald Duck and Micky Mouse cartoons. I'm asking
> if it is correct to use "cartoon" parameter for such new animated movies
> or cartoon is intended for old Micky Mouse cartoons. I really don't know
> how many fps originally is used in older and in new animated movies.
>   
Pixar stuff is essentially a "movie", not an anime, so no, you wouldn't 
use the "cartoon" parameter for them. Same goes for newer Japanese stuff 
like Vexille or Appleseed.