[FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Suggestion for a Nicer Integration with GitHub

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August 13, 2021 8:42 PM, "Ronald S. Bultje" <rsbultje at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 4:51 AM Nicolas George <george at nsup.org> wrote:
> 
>> Paul Buxton (12021-08-12):
>> From the point of view of someone who is currently developing a filter
>> for
>> ffmpeg and will be submitting a patch to the list for the first time, I
>> think this is a great idea.Whilst following simple instructions to
>> prepare
>> and submit a patch should't be outside the ability of anyone who is
>> capable
>> of contributing. Using something like github allows a more automated
>> workflow that can make the process smoother and even make lives easier
>> for
>> the maintainers as it is possible for the automations to catch issues
>> before they get sent on to you.
>> 
>> Have you wondered why these periodical threads "we/you should make
>> FFmpeg more attractive" usually end up a discussion between disgruntled
>> newbies congratulating each other for their great ideas, with only the
>> occasional bored experienced developer stepping in?
> 
> Experienced dev speaking here: I absolutely 100% disagree with this
> statement. I would be much happier to actively contribute to FFmpeg if it
> used gitlab/hub. I find this mailinglist environment beyond horrendous. I
> can't understand why anyone would be OK with our current approach. I only
> grudgingly use it when I need to because I'm assuming I'm the minority and
> I'm willing to accept the majority consensus, but not because I support it
> or think it's a good idea.

This reminds me: dav1d, gstreamer, nihav, VLC, x265, rav1e, svt-vp9, etc. and other major
multimedia projects are now all on Github/Gitlab/some graphical platform. Its' ffmpeg that's mostly
stuck in the past. Everyone's moving on. To be fair, all the projects (except gstreamer and vlc)
started off that way, but it shows where the general trend it still.

Its not just multimedia, major projects from all over the OSS sphere are moving to these graphical
platforms. Even webkit and clang, some of the largest codebases.

If people loved mailing lists all those projects would start off with those and still use them.

Again, why use a slide rule when there are calculators?

Again, there are many platforms that are not full blown github/gitlab like gitea, codeberg, gogs,
gitbucket etc. that are very nice.

To be honest, i do think the mailing list should be eventually phased out. And i think it will be,
as fresh blood comes in from younger kids who have been using the graphical platforms for their
entire programming career. It may happen next month, it may happen in one year, it may happen in 5
years. But it will happen.

> Ronald
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