[MEncoder-users] Re: Re: new doom9 codec comparission (submission)

Rich Felker dalias at aerifal.cx
Mon Dec 19 16:09:59 CET 2005

On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 02:14:17PM +0100, Doom9 Feedback Hotline wrote:
> >I smell something buggy... Have you been using ffdshow to encode all
> >along?
> Of course not, I'm always using the mencoder build Corey told me to use. I 
> created a raw file with mencoder (-of rawvideo), then put that in an AVI 
> with mencoder -ovc copy), and that file just cannot be opened via VfW. The 
> alternative was taking the mp4box muxed MP4 file, extract the video stream 
> to AVI with mp4box, cut that via VfW (VirtualDub) - that's the one mplayer 
> cannot handle, VLC has no problem with either.

OK, but I still don't understand why you used rawvideo to begin with
rather than just storing in AVI from the beginning. BTW the problem
with rawvideo and -ovc copy is (most likely) that all frames get
marked as keyframe or something stupid..

> >and my reply was just to show this to be false, as such comments are
> >making lavc look bad to who reads this
> This is where you go wrong. You can disagree with my findings, that's your 
> prerogative, but claiming they are false is just outrageous.. you do not 

I don't think Michael is talking about the results of your test...

> Finally, I need to say something: no other participant has ever give me 
> that amount of grief. I find it very unprofessional of anybody to try and 
> twist things to their favor by trying to force a certain decoder (they 
> probably know to be superior and make other codecs look worse?) via bully 
> tactics, and by unwarranted attacks on my testing methods. In five years of 

Michael has done NONE OF THESE. Please stop accusing him of this. I
have challenged some of your testing methods, not because I believe
the results are incorrect, but because you have been somewhat
unforthcoming about testing methodology and I don't want to see lavc
discredited wrongly due to errors in testing. FYI I am not one of the
libavcodec developers, just a groupie. If you want to be angry at
someone for being as ass towards you, be angry at me, not the lavc


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