[MPlayer-users] Re: [POOL] Moderate some users (was: Re: [-] Re: divx 6)

[Ivan Kowalenko]

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On May 6, 2006, at 10.10, Matthias Wieser wrote:

> Am Freitag, 5. Mai 2006 22:01 schrieb Rich Felker:
>> On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 10:22:31AM +0200, Matthias Wieser wrote:
>>>> When talking about GMC, you just say "It can improve quality"  
>>>> without
>>>> getting into any specifics to make your point.
>>>
>>> Of course it can help. Not only scientific animated  
>>> visualisations but
>>> also "real world" content. E.g. I have encoded a video captured  
>>> from a
>>> helicopter with and without gmc.
>>> gmc gives 35.50dB vs 35.44 dB without gmc. This clearly proves  
>>> that gmc
>>> can help (1).
>>
>> No, PSNR proves nothing, especially so close. Differences in the type
>> of motion comp (which gmc is) will make differences on this scale
>> without reflecting anything about quality. You'll need to use a  
>> better
>> metric or doubleblind viewing test to get any useful information.
>
> I need nothing. You will need to prove your claims. I'f you can't  
> it's your
> problem. I took a random video (with much panning) and surprise,  
> surprise,
> GMC improved psnr nearly 0.1 dB. If you wan't to use a better  
> metric or
> doubleblind viewing tests, I can send you the original video and both
> encoded versions. Where should I send them?

Oh my God, this has turned into another "divx 6" thread!

>> Again this reflects your complete incompetence on the technologies
>> involved and your insistence on convincing the public that your
>> prejudices are correct. This is why I flame you.
>
> At least the public now is conviced that your prejudices against  
> gmc, and
> the two other common mpeg4 codecs incorrect. You can flame as much  
> as you
> want, but I ask you again to send those to my private email address  
> because
> this list is about "MPlayer usage questions, feature requests, bug  
> reports"
> and not about Rich Felker's private flames.

The problem is that his private flames are being vented on the public  
mailing list.
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