On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:47:24 -0800 Philip Walden <pwaldenlinux at pacbell.net> wrote: > I was trying to produce a mpeg4 that plays on real player and window > media player without special codecs. Well that's never going to work. You'll be hard-pressed to find any players that can handle anything but MPEG-1/2 in an MPEG container.