[MPlayer-users] Re: Re: [MPlayer-cygwin] XboxMediaPlayer false information spread onmplayerhq.hu

[Gamester17 at the Xbox Media Player website]

Hi, with all due respect, it is false info that is posted on
mplayerhq.hu

This is from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/ 
"That's a lie. Seeing
http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/newweb/download_files.htm, there is a
Win32 binary (amongst many else), obviously with GPL license. Please
send the source to gabucino at mplayerhq.hu, which you are obliged to
do."

The Win32 binary of the Xbox Media Player that is hosted on
xboxmediaplayer.com does not contain any GPL code (not from FFMPEG, XVID
or any other project), it's a code written entirely from scratch by
d7o3g4q (Inc. the DivX de-coder which is a reverse engineered one from
the DivX ;) 3.11 bitstream made by d7o3g4q).

Also from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/ 
"They can't be contacted because they don't publish their E-Mail
addresses"

I sent a mail to gabucino asking if he had tried to contact me or the
developers via mail or forum & got a reply that he had not because he
did "not consider usernames created with md5sum valid." 

gabucino did not do any investigating before posting any of his posts
about the XboxMediaPlayer, which I think he should have mentioned in his
post with something like: 
"btw I did not care to try to find out if anything I'm claimed here is
true or not because I heard somewhere from someone that they are
violating the GPL & I took that for the truth. Source: None".

I think that if he would have bothered to either do some real
investigating or tried to contact me or the developers, he would have
found out the real situation & I'm sure he would not have posted
anything of what he did. 

That is why I was hoping he would see that he was wrong & do the
honourable thing by posting a retraction & apology on mplayerhq.hu

Best regards / Gamester17
webmaster at xboxmediaplayer.com
PS! gabucino also CC'ed ffmpeg-devel at lists.sourceforge.net with his
reply but he cut out most of the things of my original mail (on
purpose?!) so I have added that mail again to the bottom on this one.





<-----Original Message----->
> 
> From: Sycotic Smith
> Sent: 10/18/2002 11:56:35 AM
> To: gamester17 at nameplanet.com
> Cc: mplayer-cygwin at mplayerhq.hu; mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
> Subject: Re: [MPlayer-cygwin] XboxMediaPlayer false information spread
onmplayerhq.hu
> 
> There is NO reason to keep sending this to all of the mailing lists
for mplayer USERS. Please cease 
> and desist at this time. The information on their site is correct as
it stands in my book. IF 
> things have changed SINCE they put that info up, then they have
NOTHING to apologize for. 
> 
> It's great that you are releasing the source AFTER several users of
xvid and ffmpeg ASKED you to in 
> email, makes the world know what you are really about.
> 
> /S. Smith
> PS. -users group copied so you will know they are still trying to get
under our skin on the mplayer 
> groups.

----original mail-------

From: Gamester17 at the Xbox Media Player website 
To: gabucino at mplayerhq.hu; mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu;
mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu; mplayer-cygwin at mplayerhq.hu 
Subject XboxMediaPlayer false information spread on mplayerhq.hu 
Date 10/16/2002 10:36:44 AM 

If this is not sent to correct e-mail please forward to gabucino at
mplayerhq.hu 
(I found it very hard trying to find his e-mail address on your website,
no contact list available)

Hello gabucino,

The Win32 (by d7o3g4q) version of the XboxMediaPlayer was released about
4 months ago and does NOT contain XVID, FFMPEG or any other GPL code at
all, it uses a codec d7o3g4q build himself from scratch ( reverse
engineering the divx 3.11 bitstream). And as it does not contain any GPL
code the source does not have to be released (and probebely never will
as I doubt d7o3g4q still has the source for this old release). 


The Xbox version of Xbox Media Player does however contain both XVID or
FFMPEG code but it is not available for download on the website and is
not distributed by the Xbox Media Player team (e-mails have been sent to
XVID & FFMPEG authors informing about this), the GPL vas never violated.
In any case source code for the Xbox version has now been released.


You have not contact me (my mail address been on the web site all along)
or any of the authors. Not via e-mail or via the forums, you just posted
your false allogations without doing any investigate at all.

I hope we can expect a retraction & an appologi posted on your site in
the near future.
Think of the people that read your site & believe it to be the gospel
truth so they do not either do any investigating.

Best regards / Gamester17
webmaster at xboxmediaplayer.com

Quote from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/news.html
"The XBMP developers issued an article telling they didn't make official
releases, therefore they are not obliged to release source code. So I
guess they can say: "Oh, you have an XBMP binary? It must have been
leaked, we are soo sorry."
That's a lie. Seeing
http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/newweb/download_files.htm, there is a
Win32 binary (amongst many else), obviously with GPL license. Please
send the source to gabucino at mplayerhq.hu, which you are obliged to
do." 

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