[MPlayer-dev-eng] Re: [PATCH] nsv demuxer

Alban Bedel albeu at free.fr
Wed Mar 31 19:56:58 CEST 2004

Hi Arpi,

on Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:56:05 +0200 (CEST) you wrote:

> Hi,
> > > the problem(?) is that we're not only developers, but friends, and
> > > not anything we talk about is public.
> > 
> > I understand that and try to respect it. But sometimes it's hurt
> > mplayer developement and/or is disrespect full to others. My mail
> > was perhaps a bit hard, but given the size of the project now i really
> > think that a channel named #mplayerdev should not be (too much) used
> > for private stuff. And when it come to kicking ppl just to stay
> > "private" that's simply too much.
> I know.
> Dont worry, we've moved to #mplayersux now, with all the private stuff.
> Afaik gabu redirected #mplayerdev logs from mplayer-flame@ to -devel@,
> and so -flame can became private again.

That's really nice. I wouldn't have expected that much of a change :)

> Anyway it's bad to blame only Gabu for banning unknown people from dev,
> I also kick/ban users from there when they came with 'hi, i need help'
> and such hello. It's quite annoying that when you're discussing not
> public stuff (be it mplayer related (like the Kiss issue) or not
> (private)) then some unknown nick joins and either says nothing or
> behaves as an user.

I agree with that, particulary that i shouldn't have blamed Gabucino
that much. But i still believe that in most case it's sufficent
to just ask them to leave. If they don't kick them, that's normal.

> The channel was never targeted for real development, mailing lists is
> much better for that, as it's read by all active developers, unlike the
> irc. Irc was an alternate discussion forum, to talk about meetings,
> release time planning (time negotation), news, not-yet-public infos,
> reverse engineering and so on, and it clearly doesnt belongs to unknown
> people.

Again i agree. And again that doesn't mean that you have to slam the door
on ppls nose. Anyway things are changing it seems :)


Everything is controlled by a small evil group
to which, unfortunately, no one we know belongs.

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