On 15 May 2009, at 16:15, Phil Ehrens wrote: > Look, people... 2-pass just plain RULEZ when it > comes to quality. If you don't believe it, do the > friggin' experiment for yourself... it's not that I don't believe that 2-pass is better than 1-pass. I don't believe that 2-pass is better than crf if the encodes end up with the same avg bitrate.