[FFmpeg-devel] Discussion about mails from 9 years ago Was: [PATCH 1/2] doc/community: Add a standard set of rules for software development mailing lists

[Rémi Denis-Courmont]

Le maanantaina 25. marraskuuta 2024, 21.44.02 EET Michael Niedermayer a écrit 
:
> Hi Remi
> 
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 08:22:02PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> > Le sunnuntaina 24. marraskuuta 2024, 21.09.43 EET Michael Niedermayer a
> > écrit> 
> > > And in the last 3 weeks, alot of hostilities have hit me, so i kind of
> > > feel a little like Paul maybe felt.
> > 
> > That is a lie, plain and simple.
> 
> Its not a lie, that alot of hostilities have hit me.

Ok, indeed I misspoke. You were not lying, just being very misleading: those 
acts of hostility were in direct responses to your hostile communications.

> > You started attacking VDD and VDD attendees,
> 
> I complained that there is no recording and that there was no known
> possibility of remote participation in the FFmpeg meeting.

And that was completely unwarranted since:
1) There was no *official* FFmpeg meeting.
2) You had the right to attend (at no monetary cost to you even).

As you know, VDD is free and therefore it cannot be held in a professional 
conference centre with all the fancy meeting options that come with it. In 
essence, you are criticising the gratious host university, which is very 
ungrateful and inappropriate in its own right, IMO.

> > then posted a trolling inflamatory
> > message on X (ex-Twitter) that has since been deleted.
> 
> I posted a joke which was a reference to people saying ffmpeg is dead.

It's hard not to see the mention of VDD, and the traffic cone. Do you expect me 
to believe that that is purely coincidental? Thinking me this dumb and naïve 
feels kind of insulting, to be honest. Maybe the (rest of the) CC can pretend 
to believe you, but I can't and I won't.

> The
> joke was a picture with vultures, you know dead FFmpeg, vultures eat dead
> things Which i deleted a few hours later as people misunderstood it and i
> did not want to offend anyone.
> You know it was supposed to be a joke it was supposed to be funny.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/yeah,_right

> > You also drew an
> > extremely dubious and tasteless comparison between community members and
> > the relatives of a Lebanese terrorist organisation.
> 
> The mail you refer to is this:
> https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2024-November/335601.html
> 
> You claimed that it is
> "Comparing FFmpeg developers or their relatives with members of the
> Hezbollah is not a very effective way to convey your point" previously
> here:
> https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2024-November/335618.html
> 
> And i clarified thats not how it was meant previously here on Nov 3rd
> https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2024-November/335619.html
> 
> Now 3 weeks later you again claim this comparison, and with even stronger
> words

"Well, well, well… if it isn't the consequences of [your] own actions."

_You_ brought up the 3 weeks timeline. _I_ only put it back in context.

-- 
Rémi Denis-Courmont
http://www.remlab.net/