[FFmpeg-devel] Discussion about mails from 9 years ago Was: [PATCH 1/2] doc/community: Add a standard set of rules for software development mailing lists

[Michael Niedermayer]

Hi Remi

On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 08:22:02PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> Le sunnuntaina 24. marraskuuta 2024, 21.09.43 EET Michael Niedermayer a écrit 
> :
> > And in the last 3 weeks, alot of hostilities have hit me, so i kind of
> > feel a little like Paul maybe felt.
> 
> That is a lie, plain and simple.

Its not a lie, that alot of hostilities have hit me.


> 
> You started attacking VDD and VDD attendees,

I complained that there is no recording and that there was no known possibility
of remote participation in the FFmpeg meeting.


> then posted a trolling inflamatory
> message on X (ex-Twitter) that has since been deleted.

I posted a joke which was a reference to people saying ffmpeg is dead. The joke was
a picture with vultures, you know dead FFmpeg, vultures eat dead things
Which i deleted a few hours later as people misunderstood it and i did
not want to offend anyone. You know it was supposed to be a joke it was
supposed to be funny.


> You also drew an
> extremely dubious and tasteless comparison between community members and the 
> relatives of a Lebanese terrorist organisation.

The mail you refer to is this:
https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2024-November/335601.html

You claimed that it is
"Comparing FFmpeg developers or their relatives with members of the Hezbollah is not a very effective way to convey your point"
previously here:
https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2024-November/335618.html

And i clarified thats not how it was meant previously here on Nov 3rd
https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2024-November/335619.html

Now 3 weeks later you again claim this comparison, and with even stronger words

So again. This was an example of a supply chain attack and the power and
danger of state actors. I have listed in the original mail also the xz
backdoor and another case.

So lets clarify this in much more detail

What you refer to is this:
    "We have seen batteries being exchanged by explosives by the mosad injuring
    members of a terrorist organization and probably a few innocent people.
    You may agree with fighting terror but do you agree with explosives,
    in maybe the phone someone of your familiy bought on ebay ?"

There is no comparison between community members family and terrorists here.
Lets unwrap this step by step
Mosad puts explosives in phones and pagers.
These compromised devices end in the hands of terrorists
Some terrorist or thief or relative or other person obtains such a device and sells it
on ebay.
Someones family member buys the device on ebay
It explodes
That family member may get injured

Again in the above, there is NO comparison between a community members family and
a terrorist. The connection is that A buys a rigged device
on ebay from B. Neither A nor B know the device is rigged.

thx

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