[FFmpeg-devel] Discussion about mails from 9 years ago Was: [PATCH 1/2] doc/community: Add a standard set of rules for software development mailing lists

[Michael Niedermayer]

Hi

On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 06:02:55PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> On 11/24/2024 5:43 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 04:11:42PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> > > On 11/24/2024 4:09 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > > Now reality is, Paul (the 2nd most active developer of all time) was bullied
> > > > out of FFmpeg. In private mail he spoke about being treated like a slave.
> > > 
> > > Huh?? By whom?
> > 
> > by the community, by us all
> > 
> > maybe "bullied" is a badly choosen word here, but the way i understand it, is paul
> > dislike having to deal with "disturbing" reviews
> 
> I think only Nicolas was against his patches in general, sometimes for a
> fair reason, others probably not so much. I at least helped him every time i
> could.
> 
> There has to be another reason for him to leave like he did.

Iam fairly sure, if we would have left him change whatever he wants in his
code and gave him final authority there that he would not have left.

BUT i do not know that

He also pushed patches to his stuff bypassing the mailing list and review
process. It introduced a bug or 2 and I think i pointed that out. I dont
remember at all how i worded that.

And there was teh conflicts where he pointed to bugs but refused to provide
samples or details, making fixing them often impossible. While he caused
this it lead to further friction. This really feels like a failure of mutual
understanding, noone benefitted from this

Also teh CC was re-elected at the time of him leaving IIRC. He may have preceived
that a ban or harsh actions against him where imminent from the new CC.
Thing is that nothing like that was imminent.

I dont know how to undo the decissions from the past. But i want to undo
what led to paul leaving

thx

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Observe your enemies, for they first find out your faults. -- Antisthenes
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