[FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request

[Michael Niedermayer]

On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 03:56:40PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 04:00:43PM +0200, Lynne wrote:
> > Apr 8, 2021, 00:24 by michael at niedermayer.cc:
> > 
> > > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:32:13PM +0200, Lynne wrote:
> > >
> > >> Apr 3, 2021, 20:12 by michael at niedermayer.cc:
> > >>
> > >> > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 03:01:16PM +0200, Lynne wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Apr 2, 2021, 23:28 by michael at niedermayer.cc:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 11:03:16PM +0300, Jan Ekström wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > IMO some of this list is quite reasonable like a 1TB NVME, then iam not
> > >> >> > sure why you need a 2nd one. That can be needed of course but its not clear
> > >> >> > from just the list. But really i dont want to "critique" the list, it just
> > >> >> > overall feels like there was a misunderstanding and iam happy to approve
> > >> >> > a machiene in the 2-3k range or also higher if its explained why its needed
> > >> >> > for FFmpeg
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > and sorry for my late reply
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> By removing the screen (could borrow one for now), half the RAM, the second SSD,
> > >> >> and changing the motherboard, I can get this down to 4400 EUR.
> > >> >> Unfortunately, the CPU and GPU constitute a large amount of the sum and not
> > >> >> even downgrading them to a 6800 and a 5900 helps, in fact both of those are
> > >> >> completely out of stock wherever I checked, since they used to be cheaper.
> > >> >> So now there's mostly only the higher end options left, if at all.
> > >> >> I could probably change the RAM to save on an additional 100 EUR, but
> > >> >> I don't see this going below 4000 EUR.
> > >> >> In the past you could probably have gotten away with much less, but like I said,
> > >> >> there's a chip shortage going on where everything is much more expensive
> > >> >> than it otherwise should have been, if it's even available in stock.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > do we have some idea about when the shortage will be resolved ? 
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> I expect it to end a few months after the pandemic ends.
> > >> And I wish I knew when that would happen, if it will even happen at all.
> > >>
> > >> I searched some more and swapped for a Rocket Lake chip, which I managed
> > >> to find, which also allowed me to swap the motherboard for one cheaper still,
> > >> so I managed to bring the price down to 3900EUR.
> > >>
> > >> The main bulk of the cost is still the GPU, which goes for nearly
> > >> twice the price of its release. Sadly, coin miners are keeping demand
> > >> and therefore cost up. It's been like this for many years, or so I hear.
> > >>
> > >> If someone from AMD is listening and wants to help out like what
> > >> happened some years ago, it would be most welcome.
> > >> But as far as I know, no one in the FFmpeg + VLC community has any
> > >> contacts in AMD at all these days.
> > >>
> > >
> > > If no other solution is found and noone objects, i wont object to 
> > > a ~4k system. The timing is a bit unfortunate with the chip shortage
> > > also please dont try to reduce it at any cost. if you can gain something
> > > significant for the project by adding 100€, do it.
> > >
> > 
> > It's been a few weeks, should I make a final list?
> 
> IMHO, yes
> 
> iam also adding stefano to the CC as there was some communication between
> a few developers and SPI about this expense and iam not sure stefano is following
> the ML

to re-animate this thread
cryptos seem down and miners seem fleeing china.
Has this had any positive effect on availability/prices of hardware ?
if yes, this may be a good opertunity

Thanks
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