[FFmpeg-devel] Bad language on this mailing list

Paul B Mahol onemda at gmail.com
Mon Jul 6 23:32:14 EEST 2020


On 7/6/20, Jim DeLaHunt <list+ffmpeg-dev at jdlh.com> wrote:
> On 2020-07-04 14:08, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, at 20:09, Paul B Mahol wrote:
>>> Why is bad and offensive language tolerated on this mailing list and on
>>> IRC?
>> It is not tolerated.
>> Whatever the reason.
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Kempf -  President
>
>
> Jean-Baptiste, with respect, rudeness and offensive language _is_
> tolerated on this mailing list — as measured by the lack of community
> norm enforcement when rudeness appears, and by the lack of visible
> punishment to those who are rude. I think it is especially important for
> the person with "President" after their name to have a clear idea of the
> actual behaviour of the group.
>
> You are the best at attempting to enforce community norms. In a few
> recent threads, you have responded to rudeness by saying that rude
> behaviour is not welcome. That is good. You announced recently that you
> kicked a person off IRC as a consequence of their rude behaviour there.
> That is good. However, it is very mild compared to what I think should
> happen.
>
> None of the multiple instances of rudeness on this list in the last few
> weeks has been met with a wide-spread public rebuke. None have resulted
> in a list member being suspended from the list, or having their code
> commit authority suspended.
>
> Rudeness and offensive language is against the _rules_ of this list and
> of IRC, but it is clearly "tolerated". I wish it were not. I am hopeful
> that setting up the community governance, and forming councils with
> authority to deal with bad behaviour, will improve the situation.

Are you kind of person who prefer censorship?

Rudeness are present on both sides.

>         —Jim DeLaHunt, software engineer, Vancouver, Canada
>
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