[FFmpeg-devel] Bad language on this mailing list

[Jim DeLaHunt]

On 2020-07-04 14:08, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, at 20:09, Paul B Mahol wrote:
>> Why is bad and offensive language tolerated on this mailing list and on IRC?
> It is not tolerated.
> Whatever the reason.
>
> -- 
> Jean-Baptiste Kempf -  President


Jean-Baptiste, with respect, rudeness and offensive language _is_ 
tolerated on this mailing list — as measured by the lack of community 
norm enforcement when rudeness appears, and by the lack of visible 
punishment to those who are rude. I think it is especially important for 
the person with "President" after their name to have a clear idea of the 
actual behaviour of the group.

You are the best at attempting to enforce community norms. In a few 
recent threads, you have responded to rudeness by saying that rude 
behaviour is not welcome. That is good. You announced recently that you 
kicked a person off IRC as a consequence of their rude behaviour there. 
That is good. However, it is very mild compared to what I think should 
happen.

None of the multiple instances of rudeness on this list in the last few 
weeks has been met with a wide-spread public rebuke. None have resulted 
in a list member being suspended from the list, or having their code 
commit authority suspended.

Rudeness and offensive language is against the _rules_ of this list and 
of IRC, but it is clearly "tolerated". I wish it were not. I am hopeful 
that setting up the community governance, and forming councils with 
authority to deal with bad behaviour, will improve the situation.
        —Jim DeLaHunt, software engineer, Vancouver, Canada