[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] doc/developer: require transparency about sponshorships.

James Almer jamrial at gmail.com
Sun Jan 13 15:53:28 EET 2019

On 1/13/2019 10:40 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
> James Almer (12019-01-13):
>> I seem to remember the famous votes count voices, if one were to be called.
> You should check again, the rules state that mails without arguments do
> not count.
>> Nicolas, no one is in favor of this thing. It's an invasion of privacy
> I do not consider this specific point worthy of privacy protection.

Be the change you want in the world and post your day job income here
for all to see. Otherwise drop this absurd obsession of yours and let
people have a peaceful weekend.

>> and has no way to be enforced.
> Are you assuming that the contributors, especially the sponsored ones,
> are usually dishonest? I do not. The way to "enforce" this is to remind
> people when something suggests they might have neglected to do it, and
> expect honesty from them.
> If you consider the contributors dishonest, a much stronger measure is
> necessary, I hope you agree.
>> 				 It will potentially deter contributions
> And it will potentially attract contributions.
>> and generate bias among reviewers if the patch states it's sponsored
>> nature.
> And correct the bias among submitters when it is.
>> 	  The last thing this project needs is more walls and more
>> aggressiveness.
>> You and you alone want this in, and everyone else so far doesn't. It's
>> not making it in.
> Then I will ask you, and everybody who objects, this:
> How do you propose to address the conflict of interest of a sponsored
> contributor pushing a patch without review?

A patch pushed without review, if it gets challenged after the fact,
will get reverted unless fixed/addressed, like it happened plenty of
times. And it it was pushed while there was considerable opposition
before the fact, then they will be penalized with the loss of committing
rights for their hubris.

This patch of yours brings nothing of value, and will not have any
effect on contributors any more than the current state of things (See
existing commits in the tree where sponsorship is disclosed without an
absurd requirement of having to pull down your pants and bend over like
you're requesting here).

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