[NUT-devel] Broadcasting nuts [PATCH]

Michael Niedermayer michaelni at gmx.at
Wed Feb 6 00:13:55 CET 2008


On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 10:42:57PM +0100, Nico Sabbi wrote:
[...]
> > >  Index tags:
> > >  -----------
> > >  
> > > @@ -978,6 +984,42 @@
> > >  
> > >  Demuxers SHOULD NOT search the whole file for info packets.
> > >  
> > > +
> > > +Broadcast buffering model:
> > > +--------------------------
> > > +Nut files can be broadcast. Such specific nut files must be encoded and
> > > +muxed so as to not exceed the decoder side buffering or available bandwidth.
> > > +This spec does not provide any restrictions on the decoder buffers or
> > > +bandwidth. Nor does it mandate that the channel be transmitting at a constant
> > > +rate.
> > > +For sake of simplicity a zero latency channel is assumed. Note, due to the
> > > +lack of a back channel any constant latency channel is indistingiushable from
> > > +a zero latency channel.
> > 
> > FYI, the MPEG spec makes the same simplification.
> 
> the buffer sizes should be indicated in the headers, or how can the demuxer allocate
> them without assuming "the ram is the limit" ? Also, having fixed-size buffers
> helps to avoid realloc()s

A software demuxer must be able to allocate whatever buffers it needs anyway,
as only broadcast mode nuts would have such values. Also due to security they
would need to deal with running out of buffer space anyway. And hardware
demuxers have fixed buffers thus again not needing their sizes in the stream.


[...]
> > > +As data is received (between the 2 transmit_ts of the 2 enclosing syncpoints)
> > > +it is inserted into a FIFO buffer. The spec does not mandate a single or
> > > +multiple FIFOs,. Nor that demuxing is done before or after the FIFO. Just
> > > +that a valid nut broadcast never causes an overflow nor underflow in the
> > > +target receiver/demuxer/decoder.
> > > +
> > > +Frames are instantaneosly removed from the fifo at their dts and inserted
> > > +into the decoder.
> > 
> > These paragraphs are not really necessary.  If you want to provide a
> > timing/buffering model akin to that in the MPEG spec, you have to be
> > much more precise.
> 
> better remove this paragraph altogether than over-specifying what is obvious

I dont think this is obvious to people who havent had contact with mpeg.

[...]
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