[MPlayer-DOCS] CVS: main/DOCS/xml/en mencoder.xml,1.39,1.40

[D Richard Felker III]

On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 03:27:42PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> Hi
> 
> On Friday 01 April 2005 10:16, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> [...]
> > > Would it be clearer if I had written:
> > > Please note that MEncoder currently can't currently mux Ogg Vorbis files
> > > into a video stream because it only supports AVI and MPEG containers.
> >
> > No, not at all.  Again, don't confuse Ogg with Vorbis in the docs or the
> > distinction will never become clear.  You can mux different video and
> > audio streams into a container, but not a container into another (in
> > theory you can, but this is a VERY bad idea).  Thus you cannot mux Ogg
> > (a container) into AVI or MPEG (other containers).  It _is_ possible to
> > put Vorbis audio into AVI, but IIRC MEncoder does not support it out of
> > the box and IIRC AVI does not handle VBR audio well.  The sentence does
> > not make sense, please replace it completely.
> 
> AVI does, support VBR audio, its not even complicated or unclearly explained 
> in the MS docs, its just that either windows players cant handle it well 
> (have heard that but never confirmed it myself) or the tools which generate 
> VBR-audio-in-avi are broken and thats why it doesnt work well, furthermore 
> the output of the lame mp3 encoder is very broken and is not useable as is in 
> any container except mpeg-* this could be the reason why lame-mp3-vbr in avi 
> is problematic

Windows _PLAYERS_ (including WMP) support it just fine. Nonstandard,
broken free software commonly used on windows to edit AVI files is
what doesn't support it, i.e. one pice of crapware, VirtualDub. :)

Rich