[MPlayer-dev-eng] KiSS of copyright
gabucino at localhost.localdomain
Mon Mar 15 11:03:30 CET 2004
Ivan Kalvachev wrote:
> In next letter KiSS solve the other licence violations
> and offer 2'500.
Wasn't exactly "next", but whatever you say.
> (Gabucino give bank account?)
> Gabucino said that MPlayer want KiSS to release their
> code under GPL. Without sign of any other possible solution
I know, it was a hurry statement. They can't do that due to their contracts,
unless we are extemely triumphant in court.
> Gabucine abandon it's position! He also abandon it's
> previous position. He even stated that he doesn't "believe
> in RMS bullshit".
I never did. And quoting IRC is very rude.
> He says because they prefer to go bankrupt rather than
> complain GPL. Hell, then they will bankrupt.
There's no reason to be jumpy on a cooperative firm. We're all humans you know.
> He don't actually have position to defend. He takes the
> first that they gave him and he is happy that he got
Instead of whining, why don't you make your own viewpoint? Write it down
clearly, and make sure it looks united. That's what it takes.
> He got cash and forgot what he have stated.
Do you have any proof that I "got cash", or are you just plain accusing
> Gabucino cannot keep us away from negotiation.
Then start negotiating (but with us, not being a lonely partizan)! Suggest
ideas, not flames! Offer financial assistance! Tell us what did you consult
about with lawyers! Do something for a change!
> Every time I asked for KiSS news in #mplayerdev I got silence. Believe me
> or not but I expected that KiSS will contact via mplayer-dev.
> of them. If he doesn't trust developers he should not do
> anything from their name.
Did I not tell you all about it before actually doing it? (It's still not done)
> I guess he told them something like
> "Do you want we to get $2500 donation from KiSS?"
> without more details
That's an accusation, and I demand facts or apologizing.
> It is still not clear what the agreement is. I mean
> do the copyright holders gave permission KiSS to
> use their code in exchange of the money, or the
> donation is only matter of good will?
Godness Ivan! You got the complete mailings and I already told you what it is!
> You see it is a huge mess, and it should be sorted out ASAP.
It's actually very clear, please do not blow it any more bigger than it is.
Instead, send ideas.
> We need prove from KiSS that they have removed the code.
Read my mail......
> I hope that Gabucino won't be elected. As Arpi says that
> even the matrix cannot control him.
Tell me your ideas, and I (re)present them. This is that simple.
> 4. We should request the contaminated code from KiSS. At
> first we should take the subtitle reader code, that we
> know for sure is contaminated. This is a proof!!
I've already requested that since then.
> contracts, licenses etc. Anyway, we should try force them
> to open what is possible under OSS license, and provide
> the rest in binnary form.
You can already have it in "binary form" for years. That's how the subreader
> 5. We should seek a legal help. I guess that FSF would agree
> to give us legal help for free or % of negotiation cash. If
Nothing is for free.
> 9. The coder that took our code should not take salary and
> any other money from KiSS for one month.
- quite childish
- not enough
> 11. We could cooperate with KiSS.
Unfortunately that contradicts richard's belief. How are you going to
negotiate with him? Are you going to?
MPlayer Core Team
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