[MEncoder-users] Re: Re: Re: new doom9 codec comparission (submission)

Doom9 Feedback Hotline feedback123 at doom9.org
Mon Dec 19 00:09:22 CET 2005

>Of course if you're using different postprocessing the output will be
>different.... What Michael is asking for is a comparison of the
>decoders, not the postprocessing.

You have an answer to everything, don't you? But unless you grew up in a 
country where they speak German, my German is better than yours and he asked 
to use the same decoder and same postprocessing settings. Which is exactly 
what I did by selecting one decoder to decode them all.

What you see is how the video is reviewed, but having the samples gives you 
the opportunity to turn off deblocking and compare the results. I did that, 
and guess what.. once again XviD comes out on top. You can skew the results 
by forcing XviD to be decoded by libavcodec to make the difference less 
apparent, but it cannot hide it's still there.

Any call for using libavcodec instead of xvid to decode XviD is thus an 
attempt to twist the outcome to lavc's favor, and that's what I call 
cheating. So if you can win by cheating, fine but not in my comparison.

>The lavc file included in that zip isn't even valid! I just get a
>bunch of the following trying to play it:

It plays fine in VLC and via DirectShow and I can't create another one 
because the mencoder generated AVIs from the raw video stream cannot even be 
opened via VfW and thus edited.


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