NUT for world domination, TODO list

* nut de/muxer in lavf, mans said he might work on this * readable, non-terse spec, Rich maybe? * spec in RFC style? * nut demuxer for dshow, probably hardest task, any takers? using libnut would be best. * improove nut.hu - personally i really hate its current style, bloated, ugly, and even if it had content it would stll suck imo * demuxers for xine, vlc. Should these be (yet another) implemenation, copy paste from libnut, or actually depend (and optionally compile) on libnut? * ?? Some implementation stuff left for me: * I still have more imrpoovements for libnut mostly related to error recovery. Also someone security minded (Rich) should definitely audit my crap code.. * add some kind of frame code generator in nutmerge. I have a perl one that works on statistics for a remux... Gives generally excellent results, 1 byte fram headers for audio and 2-3 for video. - ods15

Oded Shimon wrote:
* nut de/muxer in lavf, mans said he might work on this * readable, non-terse spec, Rich maybe? * spec in RFC style?
I can do something about it.
* nut demuxer for dshow, probably hardest task, any takers? using libnut would be best. * improove nut.hu - personally i really hate its current style, bloated, ugly, and even if it had content it would stll suck imo
al3x is hosting it and I cannot change the theme, anybody has suggestions?
* demuxers for xine, vlc. Should these be (yet another) implemenation, copy paste from libnut, or actually depend (and optionally compile) on libnut?
libnut once it has a full installer with pkg-config package to make using it simpler.
Some implementation stuff left for me: * I still have more imrpoovements for libnut mostly related to error recovery. Also someone security minded (Rich) should definitely audit my crap code.. * add some kind of frame code generator in nutmerge. I have a perl one that works on statistics for a remux... Gives generally excellent results, 1 byte fram headers for audio and 2-3 for video.
the perl one seems fine. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Hi,
* nut de/muxer in lavf, mans said he might work on this * readable, non-terse spec, Rich maybe? * spec in RFC style?
I can do something about it.
I stopped it because the conflicts.
* nut demuxer for dshow, probably hardest task, any takers? using libnut would be best.
I planned it.
* improove nut.hu - personally i really hate its current style, bloated, ugly, and even if it had content it would stll suck imo
al3x is hosting it and I cannot change the theme, anybody has suggestions?
You are the admin of the drupal site, you can change the theme. Anyway, I dont think the current site is of much use. -- Alex Beregszaszi | alex@fsn.hu | +36 70 3144424

Alex Beregszaszi wrote:
You are the admin of the drupal site, you can change the theme. Anyway, I dont think the current site is of much use.
I cannot upload newer and yes, it isn't of much use. Oded dislikes it and prefers something more wiki. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 02:17:28 +0200 Luca Barbato <lu_zero@gentoo.org> wrote:
Alex Beregszaszi wrote:
You are the admin of the drupal site, you can change the theme. Anyway, I dont think the current site is of much use.
I cannot upload newer and yes, it isn't of much use. Oded dislikes it and prefers something more wiki.
We can host it on natsuki if you want and reuse the setup we have for MPlayer. Attila Kinali -- egp ist vergleichbar mit einem ikea bausatz fuer flugzeugtraeger -- reeler in +kaosu

Attila Kinali wrote:
We can host it on natsuki if you want and reuse the setup we have for MPlayer.
who is going to write the nut pages? btw mediawiki (or trac) is an option? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:14:52 +0200 Luca Barbato <lu_zero@gentoo.org> wrote:
who is going to write the nut pages? btw mediawiki (or trac) is an option?
We can install stuff on natsuki if you want, given 1) It is secure 2) it doesnt use too much cpu 1) excludes all PHP stuff (sorry, but php "programmers" simply can't code). 2) excludes all big CMS systems. Attila Kinali -- egp ist vergleichbar mit einem ikea bausatz fuer flugzeugtraeger -- reeler in +kaosu

Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> writes:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:14:52 +0200 Luca Barbato <lu_zero@gentoo.org> wrote:
who is going to write the nut pages? btw mediawiki (or trac) is an option?
We can install stuff on natsuki if you want, given 1) It is secure 2) it doesnt use too much cpu
1) excludes all PHP stuff (sorry, but php "programmers" simply can't code).
Are you referring to those who wrote PHP itself, or those who write PHP programs? I guess it applies to both, but more to the latter...
2) excludes all big CMS systems.
No, we don't want such monsters. -- Måns Rullgård mru@inprovide.com

Attila Kinali wrote:
We can install stuff on natsuki if you want, given 1) It is secure 2) it doesnt use too much cpu
1) excludes all PHP stuff (sorry, but php "programmers" simply can't code). 2) excludes all big CMS systems.
Attila Kinali
http://trac.edgewall.org/ is written python SvnTrack is written in C but isn't really ready in its developer opinion (that clashes with people using it nevertheless) Oded would like it or not? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 12:40:31AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
Attila Kinali wrote:
We can install stuff on natsuki if you want, given 1) It is secure 2) it doesnt use too much cpu
1) excludes all PHP stuff (sorry, but php "programmers" simply can't code). 2) excludes all big CMS systems.
Attila Kinali
http://trac.edgewall.org/ is written python SvnTrack is written in C but isn't really ready in its developer opinion (that clashes with people using it nevertheless)
Oded would like it or not?
I like really simple websites with really simple design. matroska.org is good. Even xiph.org is pretty good. mplayerhq.hu too ( a little too cluttered). I don't like complicated generic programs managing the website for you, unless absoloutely necessary like wiki. Overall, I'll hardly be the one contributing to this website, I'm hoping you will. so, just pick whatever is comftable to you... - ods15

Oded Shimon wrote:
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 12:40:31AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
Attila Kinali wrote:
We can install stuff on natsuki if you want, given 1) It is secure 2) it doesnt use too much cpu
1) excludes all PHP stuff (sorry, but php "programmers" simply can't code). 2) excludes all big CMS systems.
Attila Kinali
http://trac.edgewall.org/ is written python SvnTrack is written in C but isn't really ready in its developer opinion (that clashes with people using it nevertheless)
Oded would like it or not?
I like really simple websites with really simple design. matroska.org is good. Even xiph.org is pretty good. mplayerhq.hu too ( a little too cluttered). I don't like complicated generic programs managing the website for you, unless absoloutely necessary like wiki.
Overall, I'll hardly be the one contributing to this website, I'm hoping you will. so, just pick whatever is comftable to you...
trac is simple, the wiki is overall usable and should be easy to set up. I don't know wikis that aren't either php based (mediawiki) or that don't have their share of itchy details... anyway it's up to our admins. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 07:14:52PM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
Attila Kinali wrote:
We can host it on natsuki if you want and reuse the setup we have for MPlayer.
who is going to write the nut pages? btw mediawiki (or trac) is an option?
why on earth is a wiki or "content management system" needed? svn with html pages should work just fine.. if needed we could have a script that builds them from templates, like mphq. rich

On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 12:28:19AM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 07:14:52PM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
Attila Kinali wrote:
We can host it on natsuki if you want and reuse the setup we have for MPlayer.
who is going to write the nut pages? btw mediawiki (or trac) is an option?
why on earth is a wiki or "content management system" needed? svn with html pages should work just fine.. if needed we could have a script that builds them from templates, like mphq.
Agreed, this is what I've been trying to say all along. Using a wiki for every damn project website is an abomination... - ods15

Oded Shimon wrote:
Agreed, this is what I've been trying to say all along.
Using a wiki for every damn project website is an abomination...
Find somebody willing to take care of it, wiki is low maintenance and makes easy to add/change stuff, xhtml is a pain if you aren't used to it, html is a pain. I don't have time write anything xhtml that bears a resemblance of sanity. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 11:17:32AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
Oded Shimon wrote:
Agreed, this is what I've been trying to say all along.
Using a wiki for every damn project website is an abomination...
Find somebody willing to take care of it, wiki is low maintenance and makes easy to add/change stuff, xhtml is a pain if you aren't used to it, html is a pain.
I don't have time write anything xhtml that bears a resemblance of sanity.
If you really preffer wiki (or equivalent), I don't mind. I just preffer something simple... And like I said, since you will probably be managing the website, it's ultimately your decision. - ods15

On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 11:17:32AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
Oded Shimon wrote:
Agreed, this is what I've been trying to say all along.
Using a wiki for every damn project website is an abomination...
Find somebody willing to take care of it, wiki is low maintenance and makes easy to add/change stuff, xhtml is a pain if you aren't used to it, html is a pain.
Then write a 10 line sed script to convert something that looks like wiki markup to html. Not hard... Rich

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:17:32 +0200 Luca Barbato <lu_zero@gentoo.org> wrote:
Find somebody willing to take care of it, wiki is low maintenance and makes easy to add/change stuff, xhtml is a pain if you aren't used to it, html is a pain.
Had you had a look at the mplayer hompage? i think the system is quite simple (mostly html with adding headers and footers). but then, if you have decided, drop a mail to root at mplayerhq and we'll see that you'll get it. Attila Kinali -- egp ist vergleichbar mit einem ikea bausatz fuer flugzeugtraeger -- reeler in +kaosu

Hi,
* improove nut.hu - personally i really hate its current style, bloated, ugly, and even if it had content it would stll suck imo
al3x is hosting it and I cannot change the theme, anybody has suggestions?
Sorry, but I have to shut the machine down tomorrow/today. Should I change nut.hu for pointing to mplayerhq.hu? -- Alex Beregszaszi | alex@fsn.hu
participants (6)
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Alex Beregszaszi
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Attila Kinali
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Luca Barbato
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Måns Rullgård
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Oded Shimon
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Rich Felker