Hi On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Rich Felker wrote: [...]
And the protocol "whatever its called ;)" will give you a multi nut in your case, like it or not. You will either need a double layer protocol or double layer demuxer. Because mpeg-ts comes out of it currently, and if you replace it by your protocol+nut, then your protocol+nut will come out.
Depends on what you're talking about it "coming out" of. No one says that an interleaved mess of video, html, email, pings, etc. comes out of the ethernet, because there's an appropriate layer delivering to the application only the data it's interested in (and which belongs to it).
My intent was never for such monstrosities to be written to disk as a single file, but separated at the transport level. Of course even if they did remain on disk, it's like talking about zip or rar files. The possibility that someone might put two separate nut programs in some ugly wrapping structure on disk doesn't mean nut should support multiple programs internally any more than the possibility that someone might create a .rar file containing a nut file and windows codec binaries together means that nut should support embedding windows codec dlls in the headers...
Ill give a concrete example A user has a DVD with menus and some alternative scenes/chapters. With my design he just transcodes this in a single nut file and can play it. With your design, he has to transcode this into maybe 50+ files somehow kept together in an archive, lets say a .tar. With some unspecified way to store menus and all the support structures. ffplay, mplayer, ffmpeg, xine, vlc, ... will then get a command line argument called mydvd.tar There is no mysterious protocol between the file/http/ftp/... protocol and the demuxer unless such new second layer protocol or demuxer is implemented. Its not a natural part of file io to turn your single file into 50 streams easy useable and seekable by the demuxer. And i dont even want to start thinking about non seekable input or what effect that would have on complexity. [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws. -- Plato