Hi ive looked at the vorbis spec and it seems like its trivial to split the 3 header packets if they are simply blindly concatenated the first packet has fixed length the comment header looks like: 1) [vendor_length] = read an unsigned integer of 32 bits 2) [vendor_string] = read a UTF-8 vector as [vendor_length] octets 3) [user_comment_list_length] = read an unsigned integer of 32 bits 4) iterate [user_comment_list_length] times { 5) [length] = read an unsigned integer of 32 bits 6) this iteration's user comment = read a UTF-8 vector as [length] octets } 7) [framing_bit] = read a single bit as boolean 8) if ( [framing_bit] unset or end-of-packet ) then ERROR an they all have a "vorbis" in front of them ... -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB In the past you could go to a library and read, borrow or copy any book Today you'd get arrested for mere telling someone where the library is