Forgive the cross posting, this affects several projects. On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 12:50:27AM -0800, Unga wrote:
Currently Theora video in Matroska is not supported by Mplayer. To enable the support Michael Niedermayer has made the following proposal sometime back: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.mplayer.nut.devel/214
The proposal is that we add a recommendation to the ogg vorbis spec to just concatenate the headers when embedding in a container that needs to store them in a blob, and that readers skip leading and trailing data based on known packet lengths and magic strings. As Michael says, this works, and is just the sort of hacky spec wrangling ogg is (in)famous for. :) I guess my only comment is that this isn't particularly general. While vorbis has a fixed set of header packets with "easy" to determine lengths, it's possible to do a codec with external framing in mind where this wouldn't work. The theora spec, for example, allows additional application-defined header packets after the initial required three. It also means a cross-encapsulator has to understand a codec's header packet format to put the data in an ogg stream, which is something many implementors have complained loudly about. Therefore I'd like to counterpropose something with explicit packet lengths, like matroska has, or the "packed header" format the vorbis and theora rtp drafts use. If we're going to add this to the vorbis and theora specs, I'd like to see it used as broadly as possible, but luca dislikes the metadata header and omitted it from his packed header design for rtp. Luca, what do you think about adding the metadata header back as an optionally empty field? -r