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Ari Huttunen wrote:
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[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
The same problem with v1.0pre3 and the cvs-version I downloaded today.
I noticed xvid changed their API, so I guess that's it.
I don't have any trouble compiling mplayer with xvid 1.0 beta 2. Are you
sure all previous versions of xvid have been completely removed, and the
new version properly installed?

Also, to be sure, run a make distclean in the mplayer source tree before
compiling again.

-Corey

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   2. Re: uncompressed avi (D Richard Felker III)
   3. Re: Interlaced playback? (D Richard Felker III)
   4. Re: Replacing audio stream in avi file (D Richard Felker III)
   5. Re: Mencoder 2pass bitrate control (D Richard Felker III)
   6. Re: Mencoder 2pass bitrate control (jzaw)
   7. Compilation problem with xvidcore-1.0.0-beta2 (Ari Huttunen)
   8. signal 6 in decode_video (Llied)
   9. Re: Tools for mpeg* to DVD (Andrew Stevens)
  10. NSV support for MPlayer? finally a reason for it! (Compn)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:30:23 +0100
From: Alain Barth?lemy <cassandre@bartydeux.be>
Subject: [MPlayer-users] a/v out of sync - partly solved out of KDE
	Window	Manager
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Hello,

I sent many mail about my a/v sync problem. This evening I opened an avi movie
file with mplayer in a console shell (don't ask me which framebuffer is active
in that case - SuSE-8.2) and a/v is no more out of sync in that case (image was
about 2 seconds delayed in KDE).

Thus I reincode now the DVD and I should be able to read my avi file outside of
KDE.

Now, what could have happened. Is there a parameter I can add in mencoder or
mplayer to avoid that (DVD ripping -> DivX encoding)?

While "mencoding" I can read the following output:

... Selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec ...
... selected video codec (mpeg12) vfm:libmpeg2 (MPEG 1 or 2) (libmpeg2) ...

-- 
Alain Barthélemy
cassandre@bartydeux.be
http://bartydeux.be
Linux User #315631

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:49:47 -0500
From: D Richard Felker III <dalias@aerifal.cx>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] uncompressed avi
To: "MPlayer user's list." <mplayer-users@mplayerhq.hu>
Message-ID: <20031217204947.GA20210@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
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On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 01:17:55PM +0100, Steffany Appleton wrote:
...
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
Hi!
I would like to convert wmv file to uncompressed avi so that i could use
real producer and encode it to real.
I tried all sorts of oprions and i get avi out of wmv but then 
producer says "Error: Unable to set up encode.  Your input source may
contain an unsupported color format"
I've read the documentation of real producer and it says that the input
file format should be [for linux]
Uncompressed AVI or Uncompressed MOV
and that it should be RGB 24 or YUV12  [I420].
i tried:
mencoder movie.wmv -o out.avi -ovc rawrgb  -oac pcm -vop format=rgb24
mencoder movie.asf -o out.avi -ovc rawrgb  -oac pcm -vop scale=264:216 
format=rgb24
mencoder film.asf -ovc rawyuv  -oac pcm
[rawyuv should put it to YUV12 ??] same error.
So what am i doing wrong ? How should i produce uncompressed avi that
producer will accept?
To say anything certain we need a proper bug report (FULL mencoder
output), but first thing I would suggest trying is adding -vf scale to
the command line.

Rich

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:50:31 -0500
From: D Richard Felker III <dalias@aerifal.cx>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] Interlaced playback?
To: "MPlayer user's list." <mplayer-users@mplayerhq.hu>
Message-ID: <20031217205031.GB20210@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
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On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:33:29AM -0800, Corey Hickey wrote:
...
I should have been more specific: whenever I try to specify an option on
the command line, g2 just quits:
$ ./test-play -nosound ../movie.avi
Using GNU internationalization
Original domain: messages
Original dirname: /usr/share/locale
Current domain: mplayer
Current dirname: /usr/local/share/locale
CPU: Advanced Micro Devices  (Family: 6, Stepping: 0)
Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes
(that was the full output)
Actually, I partially retract that. It seems that some options work, but
I had never tried them before. Anyway, the above is true when I try
$ ./test-play -vf tfields ../movie.avi
Do I just have some syntax wrong?
Yes, for some nonsensical reason it's back to -vop in g2... ;)

Rich

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:56:06 -0500
From: D Richard Felker III <dalias@aerifal.cx>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] Replacing audio stream in avi file
To: "MPlayer user's list." <mplayer-users@mplayerhq.hu>
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On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:55:29AM -0200, romildo@uber.com.br wrote:
...
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
Hello.
I have the same movie in two different file formats:
1) avi, with an English audio stream, and a very
   good quality video stream
2) ogm, with a Brazilian Portuguese audio stream,
   but with a not so good video stream.
I want to replace the audio stream in the avi with
the one in the ogm file, recoded to mp2 (later I
will convert to SVCD). For that purpose I have
extracted the ogg audio stream from the ogm file:
$ ogmdemux -a 1 -nv -nt panteras.detonando.ogm
Then I have decoded the ogg audio stream:
$ oggdec panteras.detonando.ogm-a1.ogg
Then I have encoded it to MP2:
$ toolame -b 224 panteras.detonando.ogm-a1.wav
Now I want to replace the audio stream in the avi
with this one. What is the command for that
using mencoder?
You don't use mencoder for this. Just use ogmtools to merge the two
files (the original avi and ogm), and tell it which streams to keep.

Actually what you described is roughly possible, too, although there's
MUCH more danger of A/V desync when you split audio and video and put
them back together later like this.

Rich

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:58:17 -0500
From: D Richard Felker III <dalias@aerifal.cx>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] Mencoder 2pass bitrate control
To: "MPlayer user's list." <mplayer-users@mplayerhq.hu>
Message-ID: <20031217205816.GD20210@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
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On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:27:59PM -0000, Stanislav Stantchev wrote:
...
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
...
Hi,
i am new to this mailing list. i have some problems with mencoder. i
installed MPlayer-1.0pre3 with XVID-1.0beta2 & everything seems to work
fine, but i have problems with the 2pass bitrate control. here is the
command line i use to test mencoder:
mencoder file.vob -ovc xvid -xvidencopts
pass=1:vhq=1:qpel:me_quality=6:hq_ac:trellis:chroma_me:max_bframes=3:clo
sed_gop:keyframe_boost=0:overflow_control_strength=10:max_overflow_impro
vement=40:max_overflow_degradation=40:bquant_ratio=150:bquant_offset=100
:bf_threshold=0 -sws 9 -vf crop=720:362:0:56,scale=640:320 -nosound -o
mencoder.avi
for the second pass i just change pass=2:bitrate=900 for an example. the
thing that bothers me , is that after encoding i don't get the wanted
bitrate. when i ask for 900, i get 761 or when i ask for 650 i get 521.
it's 1 of 5 times when i get the bitrate i want. maybe i am doing
something wrong. i would appreciate is very much if someone can help me.
if that helps more, i am using Slack-9.1, PIII-M 1GHz, 256MB ram.
Thanks for your help!
You need to post the FULL output of mencoder or we can only guess
what's wrong. My guess is you have an NTSC movie DVD at 23.976 fps and
you need to add -ofps 23.976.

Also, xvid is not recommended. lavc is faster and gives better
quality.

Rich

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:08:13 +0000
From: jzaw <jz@w.dnsalias.org>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] Mencoder 2pass bitrate control
To: "MPlayer user's list." <mplayer-users@mplayerhq.hu>
Message-ID: <202E796D-30D5-11D8-8D99-003065427DF8@w.dnsalias.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 20:58 Europe/London, D Richard Felker 
III wrote:
...
Also, xvid is not recommended. lavc is faster and gives better
quality.
is this generally recognised or is the jury still out on this one?
I thought there was still some discussion about quality?

the reason I ask is cos I currently use XviD to do all my DVD backups

Zaw

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:11:26 +0200
From: Ari Huttunen <hagrid@welho.com>
Subject: [MPlayer-users] Compilation problem with xvidcore-1.0.0-beta2
To: mplayer-users@mplayerhq.hu
Message-ID: <3FE0C67E.7090900@welho.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

The same problem with v1.0pre3 and the cvs-version I downloaded today.
I noticed xvid changed their API, so I guess that's it.

[root@cs78184034 main]# make
make -C libmpcodecs
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/MPlayercvs/main/libmpcodecs'
cc -c -O4 -march=athlon-4 -mcpu=athlon-4 -pipe -ffast-math 
-fomit-frame-pointer -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE 
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 
-I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I. -Inative -I.. 
-I../libmpdemux -I../loader -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 
-I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include 
-D_GNU_SOURCE -I../libmpflac -o vd_xvid.o vd_xvid.c
vd_xvid.c: In function `init':
vd_xvid.c:72: `XVID_INIT_PARAM' undeclared (first use in this function)
vd_xvid.c:72: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
vd_xvid.c:72: for each function it appears in.)
vd_xvid.c:72: parse error before "ini"
vd_xvid.c:73: `XVID_DEC_PARAM' undeclared (first use in this function)
vd_xvid.c:93: `ini' undeclared (first use in this function)
vd_xvid.c:94: `dec_p' undeclared (first use in this function)
vd_xvid.c:124: `XVID_CSP_RGB24' undeclared (first use in this function)
vd_xvid.c:127: `XVID_CSP_RGB32' undeclared (first use in this function)
vd_xvid.c:140: `API_VERSION' undeclared (first use in this function)
vd_xvid.c: In function `decode':
vd_xvid.c:190: `XVID_DEC_FRAME' undeclared (first use in this function)
vd_xvid.c:190: parse error before "dec"
vd_xvid.c:204: `dec' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[1]: *** [vd_xvid.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/MPlayercvs/main/libmpcodecs'
make: *** [libmpcodecs/libmpcodecs.a] Error 2

Ari

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:19:30 +0300 (MSK)
From: "Llied" <Llied@yandex.ru>
Subject: [MPlayer-users] signal 6 in decode_video
To: mplayer-users@mplayerhq.hu
Message-ID: <3FE0D672.00000D.16749@pantene.yandex.ru>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="US-ASCII"

Hi All
Trying to run mplayer for a week and always get signal 6 in module decode_video
Does anybody know the reason and how to fix it
Mplayer ouput:

Using GNU internationalization
Original domain: messages
Original dirname: /usr/share/locale
Current domain: mplayer
Current dirname: /usr/local/share/locale

MPlayer 0.90rc5-3.3.1 (C) 2000-2003 Arpad Gereoffy (see DOCS)

CPU: Intel Celeron Covington/Pentium II Deschutes,Tonga/Pentium II Xeon (Family: 6, Stepping: 2)
Detected cache-line size is 32 bytes
CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX

Reading config file /usr/local/etc/mplayer/mplayer.confReading config file /root/.mplayer/config
Reading /root/.mplayer/codecs.conf: Reading /usr/local/etc/mplayer/codecs.conf: 50 audio & 136 video codecs
font: can't open file: /root/.mplayer/font/font.desc
font: can't open file: /usr/local/share/mplayer/font/font.desc
Using Linux hardware RTC timing (1024Hz).
Can't open input config file /root/.mplayer/input.conf : No such file or directory
Can't open input config file /usr/local/etc/mplayer/input.conf : No such file or directory
Falling back on default (hardcoded) input config

Playing /mnt/c/g__/[sV]The.DC.Video.DVDrip.TrueTech.mpg
MPEG-PS file format detected.
VIDEO:  MPEG1  352x240  (aspect 12)  29,97 fps  1150,0 kbps (143,8 kbyte/s)
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
MP3lib: init layer2&3 finished, tables done
AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, 16 bit (0x10), ratio: 28000->176400 (224,0 kbit)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm:mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
==========================================================================
Vesafb does not support changing the video mode
SDL: Using driver: fbcon
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [mpegpes] MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough
VDec: vo config request - 352 x 240 (preferred csp: Mpeg PES)
Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vop scale...
Opening video filter: [scale]
The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
VDecoder init failed :(
Opening video decoder: [libmpeg2] MPEG 1/2 Video decoder v2.0
libmpeg2: Using MMX for IDCT transform
libmpeg2: Using MMX for motion compensation
VDec: vo config request - 352 x 240 (preferred csp: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)
Movie-Aspect is 1,33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
VO: [sdl] 352x240 => 352x264 Planar YV12
Selected video codec: [mpeg12] vfm:libmpeg2 (MPEG 1 or 2 (libmpeg2))
==========================================================================
Checking audio filter chain for 44100Hz/2ch/16bit -> 44100Hz/2ch/16bit...
AF_pre: af format: 2 bps, 2 ch, 44100 hz, little endian signed int
AF_pre: 44100Hz 2ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian)
AO: [oss] 44100Hz 2ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian) (2 bps)
Building audio filter chain for 44100Hz/2ch/16bit -> 44100Hz/2ch/16bit...
Starting playback...
A:   0,4 V:   0,0 A-V:  0,346 ct:  0,000    1/  1   0%  0%  0,0% 0 0 0%

MPlayer interrupted by signal 6 in module: decode_video
- MPlayer crashed. This shouldn't happen.
  It can be a bug in the MPlayer code _or_ in your drivers _or_ in your gcc
  version. If you think it's MPlayer's fault, please read DOCS/bugreports.html
  and follow the instructions there. We can't and won't help unless you provide
  this information when reporting a possible bug.

PS. Same thing with latest mplayer source package, different vo's

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:57:20 +0100
From: Andrew Stevens <andrew.stevens@mnet-online.de>
Subject: [MPlayer-users] Re: Tools for mpeg* to DVD
To: mplayer-users@mplayerhq.hu
Message-ID: <200312172357.20455.andrew.stevens@mnet-online.de>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi,

rcooley wrote:
...
Still does a better job than mplex.  mplex is too strict, it needs to
be dealt with carefully, and tends to just about have a heart attack if
you give it something as simple as a VBR stream (which tcmplex doesn't
even complain about).
The reason for this 'pickiness' is that mplex takes what you tell it about the 
limitations of the decoder it is multiplexing for seriously.  VBR isn't 
really the issue, its whether the stream goes outside  the spec range or not.
Being 'picky' about this is vital if you are muxing for hardware DVD/SVCD 
players if you want to avoid burning 'coffee coasters' instead of reliably 
playable CDs/DVDs.  If you want mplex to be less picky (for example because 
you intend to use a software player - these handle just about anything) 
simply tell it to forget about the standards and specify some nice generous 
settings, big buffers, high maximum decode rate and away you go...
...
...
You're definately sure out of luck if
you want more than basic AC3 or MPEG layer II audio muxing.
Why would anyone want it to do anything more than that?  DVDs/SVCD/VCDs
don't support much of anything else.
The classic scenario is a high-quality multi-channel DTS or LPCM audio-track 
that you would like to mux back into a video stream you have reduced down in 
size.

The current major work-in-progress for the new year is multiplexing of 
'subtitles' (SVCD and DVD subpictures - used also for menus in DVDs).
...
Since the MPEG4 standard suggests a MOV container, it doesn't look like
the MPEG file format has much future anyhow.
MPEG-2 is the format used for essentially all broadcast TV (standard and HD), 
and there very very stand-alone MPEG-4 players available.   A common 
application is taking a digital TV MPEG-2 stream via a suitable tuner card 
and transcoding / muxing to DVD.

Of course, for PC based play-back you are very much better off coding to 
MPEG-4 or other more modern formats.
...
I think I speak for about 90% of the complaintees when I say, it
works well, it's just too slow.  ffmpeg's mpeg2 codec is young, but is
already about 3x faster than mpeg2enc.
Unless I'm very much mistaken ffmpeg encodes MPEG-2 with interlaced support 
and B frames off.  These are on by default in mpeg2enc. If you turn them off  
mpeg2enc runs a little over twice as fast (17 fps vs. 9 fps on my Athlon/XP 
2100+).  These features are expensive to code properly... B frames require 
big motion estimate search radii and are unfriendly to predictive motion 
estimators and interlaced coding requires you to motion estimate a frame once 
as a frame and then a second time as two fields.

The upcomng release of mpeg2enc has the defaults set to ffmpeg like 
behaviour...

Andrew

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:1:22 -0500
From: Compn <tempn@twmi.rr.com>
Subject: [MPlayer-users] NSV support for MPlayer? finally a reason for
	it!
To: "mplayer-users@mplayerhq.hu" <mplayer-users@mplayerhq.hu>
Message-ID:
	<200312180258.hBI2wVBs021734@ms-smtp-03-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

ok, anyone backport the nsv demuxer to mplayer (from g2)??

winamp 5 ships with a nice list of personal tv streams just like radio streams from shoutcast
the list is even hosted on shoutcast! to get the list, winamp uses this user agent and url
wget -U="Winamp 5.0/ScList_component" "http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/tvlister.phtml?limit=100000000&service=winamp2"
but using wget gives me a file which i cant decode, it does not appear to be tar/bzip2/zip/rar/gzip so if anyone has any idea
what it is, just add to this thread or cc to me. the decoded list is at the bottom of this post

most of these streams use vp1/3/x and mp3 or aac audio, so should be no prob...
playing any stream gives and end of file (tried on win and linux, here is windows output -v )
using win 1pre3

Playing http://www.ntcast.com:7000/.
WINSOCK2 init: 0
Resolving www.ntcast.com for AF_INET...
Connecting to server www.ntcast.com[61.74.156.213]:7000 ...
--- HTTP DEBUG HEADER --- START ---
protocol:           [ICY]
http minor version: [0]
uri:                [(null)]
method:             [(null)]
status code:        [200]
reason phrase:      [OK]
body size:          [1857]
Fields:
 0 - icy-notice1:<BR>This stream requires <a href="http://www.winamp.com/">Winamp</a><BR>
 1 - icy-notice2:SHOUTcast Distributed Network Audio Server/Linux v1.9.2<BR>
 2 - icy-name:NTCast.COM: Music-TV (JPOP) [ #NTCast in NURI-NET irc://irc.nuri.net ]
 3 - icy-genre:Music Performance
 4 - icy-url:http://www.NTCast.COM/
 5 - Content-Type:video/nsv
 6 - icy-pub:1
 7 - icy-br:300
--- HTTP DEBUG HEADER --- END ---
Name   : NTCast.COM: Music-TV (JPOP) [ #NTCast in NURI-NET irc://irc.nuri.net ]
Genre  : Music Performance
Website: http://www.NTCast.COM/
Public : yes
Bitrate: 300kbit/s
Cache size set to 320 KBytes
Connected to server: www.ntcast.com
CACHE_PRE_INIT: 0 [0] 0  pre:65536  eof:0
Cache fill: 17.50% (57344 bytes)    ==> Found audio stream: 0
DEMUXER: freeing demuxer at 02047568
DEMUXER: freeing sh_audio at 02049DB0

WINSOCK2 uninit

Exiting... (End of file)

here is the list after winamp decodes it to file (winamp/plugins/ml/tv.dat)

http://205.188.234.33:8048/;stream.nsv?The Sex Club Video?Video?
http://217.67.233.172:8040/;stream.nsv?
http://66.79.181.200:8000/;stream.nsv?
Daft Punk - Da Funk (Jonze)?http://205.188.234.33:8024/;stream.nsv?
Dirty D Video?Original Porn?http://66.98.224.66:8000/;stream.nsv?
My TV (Powered by nsvenc-linux and motherfucking rOn)?Random?
http://205.188.234.33:8044/;stream.nsv?
http://61.74.156.213:7000/;stream.nsv?
Unrestricted access @ www.proncast.com!?http://65.110.55.32:8000/;stream.nsv?
http://205.188.234.33:8010/;stream.nsv?migcam?webcam?
http://205.188.234.33:8046/;stream.nsv?WeenTV?music?Lepers TV, st louis 2000?
http://205.188.234.33:8030/;stream.nsv?
http://66.230.156.58:8322/;stream.nsv?Bjork promo stream (200kbps version)?
http://205.188.234.33:8032/;stream.nsv?Pumpkins TV?iamone-live?
http://205.188.234.33:8022/;stream.nsv?
http://205.188.234.33:8036/;stream.nsv?
http://205.188.234.33:8038/;stream.nsv?KrzysPys test?LiveCam?
http://213.184.16.1:2004/;stream.nsv?FREQUENT.NL INTERNET RADIO?
live radio from holland?http://195.234.173.41:10010/;stream.nsv?colour?
http://64.62.253.15:5476/;stream.nsv?
http://205.188.234.33:8042/;stream.nsv?NTV: Worldwide Public Access?
http://205.188.234.33:8012/;stream.nsv?NTV: Radiohead Videos (200kbps)?
music videos?karma_police?http://205.188.234.33:8040/;stream.nsv?
sessions_aol_commercial?http://205.188.234.33:8016/;stream.nsv?
http://68.44.104.57:8000/;stream.nsv?andrew cam http://lithium.rejected.cc?
http://207.6.171.213:5000/;stream.nsv?NTV: Nullsoft Band Practice All The Time?

ignore the ??'s, they were binary/seperator charecters...

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:23:02 +1000
From: Adam Nielsen <a.nielsen@optushome.com.au>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] Movie doesn't stretch to window border
To: "MPlayer user's list." <mplayer-users@mplayerhq.hu>
Message-ID: <200312181323.02403@korath>
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...
One thing though, when i resize a movie it doesn't actually resize it - it 
only resizes the window, so there's a heap of black around the movie to fill 
the window. Anyone know how to fix this or why it's doing this?
You're probably using a video output plugin that doesn't support resizing 
(e.g. -vo x11.)  Try another one that does support this (-vo xv is 
recommended.)

You can also press F for full screen, but the same rule applies.

Cheers,
Adam.

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:10:28 -0800
From: Corey Hickey <bugfood-ml@fatooh.org>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] Mencoder 2pass bitrate control
To: "MPlayer user's list." <mplayer-users@mplayerhq.hu>
Message-ID: <3FE128B4.20106@fatooh.org>
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jzaw wrote:
...
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
On Wednesday, Dec 17, 2003, at 20:58 Europe/London, D Richard Felker III 
wrote:
...
Also, xvid is not recommended. lavc is faster and gives better
quality.
is this generally recognised or is the jury still out on this one?
I thought there was still some discussion about quality?
It's generally recognized as true around here because nobody has been
able to prove us wrong. A while ago I tried a sample encode with xvid
1.0 beta 2, and was impressed with the results; when I compared it to
lavc, I really couldn't decide which I liked better.

I'd like to do some psnr tests of xvid, but it doesn't work with xvid
1.0:

Option xvidencopts: Unknown suboption psnr

libmpcodecs/ve_xvid4.c has no mention of psnr...

-Corey

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