hi all, i installed the mplayer on a freebsd 5 ibm laptop. seems to work almost fine - doesn't have a frame around the video and some other glitches but it's ok for now.... i installed also the mplayerplug-in for mozila and it works fine with streaming wm files but with qt streams i don't see anything. it just says: mplayerplug-in Playing NameOfFile.mov but no picture or sound. when i try streaming real media. i still get the message from the browser to get the real media plug-in. mplayerplug-in doesn't doesn't even try to play those. should i edit the browser mime-types for that? although i can play real media files localy.... any help will be appreciated.... thanks.....
søn, 04.01.2004 kl. 17.14 skrev Kalin Mintchev:
Playing NameOfFile.mov
but no picture or sound. when i try streaming real media. i still get the message from the browser to get the real media plug-in. mplayerplug-in doesn't doesn't even try to play those. should i edit the browser mime-types for that? although i can play real media files localy.... any help will be appreciated.... thanks.....
Works o.k. for me with the setup I just sent to the list as answer to Steven Shiau - how did you get hold of the plugin and mplayer? Were they BSD ports or kosher source? --Tonni -- mail: billy - at - billy.demon.nl http://www.billy.demon.nl
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Tony Earnshaw wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html] søn, 04.01.2004 kl. 17.14 skrev Kalin Mintchev:
Playing NameOfFile.mov
but no picture or sound. when i try streaming real media. i still get the message from the browser to get the real media plug-in. mplayerplug-in doesn't doesn't even try to play those. should i edit the browser mime-types for that? although i can play real media files localy.... any help will be appreciated.... thanks.....
Works o.k. for me with the setup I just sent to the list as answer to Steven Shiau - how did you get hold of the plugin and mplayer? Were they BSD ports or kosher source?
for mplayer i did a cvsup of the multimedia ports and installed from there it took a while because i had to install the ogg and vorbis libraries and they couldn't find each other. the mplayerplug-in i got from the ports on freebsd.org and that one was build without problems. it plays qt if the qt files are not streaming. but not control buttons show up - like pause, stop and play....
--Tonni
søn, 04.01.2004 kl. 23.55 skrev Kalin Mintchev:
Works o.k. for me with the setup I just sent to the list as answer to Steven Shiau - how did you get hold of the plugin and mplayer? Were they BSD ports or kosher source?
for mplayer i did a cvsup of the multimedia ports and installed from there it took a while because i had to install the ogg and vorbis libraries and they couldn't find each other. the mplayerplug-in i got from the ports on freebsd.org and that one was build without problems. it plays qt if the qt files are not streaming. but not control buttons show up - like pause, stop and play....
I can't say anything sensible, I'm afraid. My stuff is all original CVS compile on very recent RH Linux. I was simply curious, since some BSD people seem to have problems with BSD ports - like srpms on Linux, which I try to avoid like the pest. As far as control buttons go, I don't have them at all with mplayer-plugin, only with gmplayer and its skins. All I can do, is kill the mplayer plugin :) --Tonni -- mail: billy - at - billy.demon.nl http://www.billy.demon.nl
thanks Tonni... anybody else can shed some light on the issue: why streaming QT doesn't show up even if it sais it's playing it? and what about streaming real media? do i need different codecs for streaming QT and RM? thanks On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Tony Earnshaw wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html] søn, 04.01.2004 kl. 23.55 skrev Kalin Mintchev:
Works o.k. for me with the setup I just sent to the list as answer to Steven Shiau - how did you get hold of the plugin and mplayer? Were they BSD ports or kosher source?
for mplayer i did a cvsup of the multimedia ports and installed from there it took a while because i had to install the ogg and vorbis libraries and they couldn't find each other. the mplayerplug-in i got from the ports on freebsd.org and that one was build without problems. it plays qt if the qt files are not streaming. but not control buttons show up - like pause, stop and play....
I can't say anything sensible, I'm afraid. My stuff is all original CVS compile on very recent RH Linux. I was simply curious, since some BSD people seem to have problems with BSD ports - like srpms on Linux, which I try to avoid like the pest.
As far as control buttons go, I don't have them at all with mplayer-plugin, only with gmplayer and its skins. All I can do, is kill the mplayer plugin :)
--Tonni
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 13:52:32 +0100 Tony Earnshaw <tonye@billy.demon.nl> wrote:
I was simply curious, since some BSD people seem to have problems with BSD ports - like srpms on Linux, which I try to avoid like the pest.
They have problems with the mplayer port, simply because in *BSD, you install everything from ports (or pkg-src for NetBSD). You might as well try to say that some Linux people seem to have problems with compiling from source. One good reason everyone uses ports, is that many projects are linux-centric, and don't work under BSD without numerous patches (the ports system applies those patches). Compiling from unmodified MPlayer sources is not really feasable.
On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 09:36:48PM -0800, rcooley wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html] On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 13:52:32 +0100 Tony Earnshaw <tonye@billy.demon.nl> wrote:
I was simply curious, since some BSD people seem to have problems with BSD ports - like srpms on Linux, which I try to avoid like the pest.
They have problems with the mplayer port, simply because in *BSD, you install everything from ports (or pkg-src for NetBSD). You might as well try to say that some Linux people seem to have problems with compiling from source.
One good reason everyone uses ports, is that many projects are linux-centric,
Would you care to give examples?? Maybe this is the case for a few programs with stupid authors, or which have a good reason for being linux-centric (for instance a v4l-based tv app), but in general it's not the case at all.
and don't work under BSD without numerous patches (the ports system applies those patches). Compiling from unmodified MPlayer sources is not really feasable.
This is nonsense. MPlayer should compile fine out-of-the-box. If not, send a proper bugreport. Rich
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 01:31:56 -0500 D Richard Felker III <dalias@aerifal.cx> wrote:
One good reason everyone uses ports, is that many projects are linux-centric,
Would you care to give examples?? Maybe this is the case for a few programs with stupid authors, or which have a good reason for being linux-centric (for instance a v4l-based tv app), but in general it's not the case at all.
It's far beyond a few examples. Pick a category and I'll list a few thousand if you really want.
and don't work under BSD without numerous patches (the ports system applies those patches). Compiling from unmodified MPlayer sources is not really feasable.
This is nonsense. MPlayer should compile fine out-of-the-box.
On OpenBSD: it doesn't now, and it never has.
If not, send a proper bugreport.
It wouldn't be a bug report, it would be more like dozens of them, and since applying the patches to 0.90 is good enough for me, I don't have much motivation to go through all that.
Rich
ok... in the mean time "something" happaned and i can't see the WM straeams anymore and the plugin-in wont play the downloadable QT files either. i haven't done anything - not one modificatopn to this machine.. it's a freeBSD not Net or Open.... what's next? On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, rcooley wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html] On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 01:31:56 -0500 D Richard Felker III <dalias@aerifal.cx> wrote:
One good reason everyone uses ports, is that many projects are linux-centric,
Would you care to give examples?? Maybe this is the case for a few programs with stupid authors, or which have a good reason for being linux-centric (for instance a v4l-based tv app), but in general it's not the case at all.
It's far beyond a few examples. Pick a category and I'll list a few thousand if you really want.
and don't work under BSD without numerous patches (the ports system applies those patches). Compiling from unmodified MPlayer sources is not really feasable.
This is nonsense. MPlayer should compile fine out-of-the-box.
On OpenBSD: it doesn't now, and it never has.
If not, send a proper bugreport.
It wouldn't be a bug report, it would be more like dozens of them, and since applying the patches to 0.90 is good enough for me, I don't have much motivation to go through all that.
Rich
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Kalin Mintchev wrote:
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ok... in the mean time "something" happaned and i can't see the WM straeams anymore and the plugin-in wont play the downloadable QT files either. i haven't done anything - not one modificatopn to this machine..
it's a freeBSD not Net or Open....
what's next?
just to report that i continued trying and eventually got something else. instead of saying: mplayerplug-in Playing TheFile.mov it sais: mplayerplug-in Cache fill 0.00% (0 bytes) it has been like that for the last 5 min... as far as my memory - top sais i have more than 100 mb free - this machine has 256... so.... should i feel lucky?
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, rcooley wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html] On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 01:31:56 -0500 D Richard Felker III <dalias@aerifal.cx> wrote:
One good reason everyone uses ports, is that many projects are linux-centric,
Would you care to give examples?? Maybe this is the case for a few programs with stupid authors, or which have a good reason for being linux-centric (for instance a v4l-based tv app), but in general it's not the case at all.
It's far beyond a few examples. Pick a category and I'll list a few thousand if you really want.
and don't work under BSD without numerous patches (the ports system applies those patches). Compiling from unmodified MPlayer sources is not really feasable.
This is nonsense. MPlayer should compile fine out-of-the-box.
On OpenBSD: it doesn't now, and it never has.
If not, send a proper bugreport.
It wouldn't be a bug report, it would be more like dozens of them, and since applying the patches to 0.90 is good enough for me, I don't have much motivation to go through all that.
Rich
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as i wrote a few times so far i still can't see streaming QT using the mplayer plugin with the galeon browser on a freebsd machine. what i see in place of where the movie should be playing is: mplayerplig-in Playing http://url..com/nameOfmovie....etc i'm not interested in the plugin telling me that it's playing the movie - i need to see it.... is that too much to ask? if there is no answer here what is another good resource to troubleshoot this plugin and mplayer in general?! thanks... On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Kalin Mintchev wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html] On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Kalin Mintchev wrote:
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ok... in the mean time "something" happaned and i can't see the WM straeams anymore and the plugin-in wont play the downloadable QT files either. i haven't done anything - not one modificatopn to this machine..
it's a freeBSD not Net or Open....
what's next?
just to report that i continued trying and eventually got something else. instead of saying:
mplayerplug-in Playing TheFile.mov
it sais:
mplayerplug-in Cache fill 0.00% (0 bytes)
it has been like that for the last 5 min...
as far as my memory - top sais i have more than 100 mb free - this machine has 256...
so.... should i feel lucky?
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, rcooley wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html] On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 01:31:56 -0500 D Richard Felker III <dalias@aerifal.cx> wrote:
One good reason everyone uses ports, is that many projects are linux-centric,
Would you care to give examples?? Maybe this is the case for a few programs with stupid authors, or which have a good reason for being linux-centric (for instance a v4l-based tv app), but in general it's not the case at all.
It's far beyond a few examples. Pick a category and I'll list a few thousand if you really want.
and don't work under BSD without numerous patches (the ports system applies those patches). Compiling from unmodified MPlayer sources is not really feasable.
This is nonsense. MPlayer should compile fine out-of-the-box.
On OpenBSD: it doesn't now, and it never has.
If not, send a proper bugreport.
It wouldn't be a bug report, it would be more like dozens of them, and since applying the patches to 0.90 is good enough for me, I don't have much motivation to go through all that.
Rich
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in my codecs libs there are 2 files refering to QT: QuickTime.qts and qtmlClient.dll they both are dated Sep 28 - is there a newer version of one or both of them i have to have so i can actually use it?! also i noticed that whe sometimes the player is "playing" a stream the -cache option envoked by the plugin is 512 - this laptop has only 256 ram. is this an issue? if so where can i change that to 256? what file should i look at? On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Kalin Mintchev wrote:
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as i wrote a few times so far i still can't see streaming QT using the mplayer plugin with the galeon browser on a freebsd machine. what i see in place of where the movie should be playing is:
mplayerplig-in Playing http://url..com/nameOfmovie....etc
i'm not interested in the plugin telling me that it's playing the movie - i need to see it.... is that too much to ask?
if there is no answer here what is another good resource to troubleshoot this plugin and mplayer in general?!
thanks...
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Kalin Mintchev wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html] On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Kalin Mintchev wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
ok... in the mean time "something" happaned and i can't see the WM straeams anymore and the plugin-in wont play the downloadable QT files either. i haven't done anything - not one modificatopn to this machine..
it's a freeBSD not Net or Open....
what's next?
just to report that i continued trying and eventually got something else. instead of saying:
mplayerplug-in Playing TheFile.mov
it sais:
mplayerplug-in Cache fill 0.00% (0 bytes)
it has been like that for the last 5 min...
as far as my memory - top sais i have more than 100 mb free - this machine has 256...
so.... should i feel lucky?
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, rcooley wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html] On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 01:31:56 -0500 D Richard Felker III <dalias@aerifal.cx> wrote:
One good reason everyone uses ports, is that many projects are linux-centric,
Would you care to give examples?? Maybe this is the case for a few programs with stupid authors, or which have a good reason for being linux-centric (for instance a v4l-based tv app), but in general it's not the case at all.
It's far beyond a few examples. Pick a category and I'll list a few thousand if you really want.
and don't work under BSD without numerous patches (the ports system applies those patches). Compiling from unmodified MPlayer sources is not really feasable.
This is nonsense. MPlayer should compile fine out-of-the-box.
On OpenBSD: it doesn't now, and it never has.
If not, send a proper bugreport.
It wouldn't be a bug report, it would be more like dozens of them, and since applying the patches to 0.90 is good enough for me, I don't have much motivation to go through all that.
Rich
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ok... one more try... in attempt toplay a scaled up stream a see this: mplayerplug-in Cache fill: 0.00% (0 bytes) XMMS: found plugin: libcdaudio.so (CD Audio Player) why libcdaudio.so?!?! On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Kalin Mintchev wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
as i wrote a few times so far i still can't see streaming QT using the mplayer plugin with the galeon browser on a freebsd machine. what i see in place of where the movie should be playing is:
mplayerplig-in Playing http://url..com/nameOfmovie....etc
i'm not interested in the plugin telling me that it's playing the movie - i need to see it.... is that too much to ask?
if there is no answer here what is another good resource to troubleshoot this plugin and mplayer in general?!
thanks...
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Kalin Mintchev wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html] On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Kalin Mintchev wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
ok... in the mean time "something" happaned and i can't see the WM straeams anymore and the plugin-in wont play the downloadable QT files either. i haven't done anything - not one modificatopn to this machine..
it's a freeBSD not Net or Open....
what's next?
just to report that i continued trying and eventually got something else. instead of saying:
mplayerplug-in Playing TheFile.mov
it sais:
mplayerplug-in Cache fill 0.00% (0 bytes)
it has been like that for the last 5 min...
as far as my memory - top sais i have more than 100 mb free - this machine has 256...
so.... should i feel lucky?
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, rcooley wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html] On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 01:31:56 -0500 D Richard Felker III <dalias@aerifal.cx> wrote:
One good reason everyone uses ports, is that many projects are linux-centric,
Would you care to give examples?? Maybe this is the case for a few programs with stupid authors, or which have a good reason for being linux-centric (for instance a v4l-based tv app), but in general it's not the case at all.
It's far beyond a few examples. Pick a category and I'll list a few thousand if you really want.
and don't work under BSD without numerous patches (the ports system applies those patches). Compiling from unmodified MPlayer sources is not really feasable.
This is nonsense. MPlayer should compile fine out-of-the-box.
On OpenBSD: it doesn't now, and it never has.
If not, send a proper bugreport.
It wouldn't be a bug report, it would be more like dozens of them, and since applying the patches to 0.90 is good enough for me, I don't have much motivation to go through all that.
Rich
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 00:18:23 -0800 rcooley <rcooley@spamcop.net> wrote:
This is nonsense. MPlayer should compile fine out-of-the-box.
On OpenBSD: it doesn't now, and it never has.
It compiles fine on OpenBSD, save a minor glitch. Patch coming up. -- Björn Sandell DCE/DFS Sysadmin IT department Chalmers University of Technology www.dce.chalmers.se
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 12:57:39 +0100 Björn Sandell <biorn@dce.chalmers.se> wrote:
It compiles fine on OpenBSD, save a minor glitch. Patch coming up.
Just tried pre3 on OpenBSD 3.4, and it had numerous glitches... I suppose I should check-out CVS.
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:18:25 -0800 rcooley <rcooley@spamcop.net> wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html] On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 12:57:39 +0100 Björn Sandell <biorn@dce.chalmers.se> wrote:
It compiles fine on OpenBSD, save a minor glitch. Patch coming up.
Just tried pre3 on OpenBSD 3.4, and it had numerous glitches...
That's what I tried (3.4-current). Care to list the glitches so they can get fixed? -- Björn Sandell DCE/DFS Sysadmin IT department Chalmers University of Technology www.dce.chalmers.se
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 00:03:25 +0100 Björn Sandell <biorn@dce.chalmers.se> wrote:
That's what I tried (3.4-current).
Care to list the glitches so they can get fixed?
The first problem I had was with iconv: libvo/libvo.a(font_load_ft.o): In function `prepare_charset': font_load_ft.o(.text+0x1a3b): undefined reference to `libiconv_open' font_load_ft.o(.text+0x1a5c): undefined reference to `libiconv_close' font_load_ft.o(.text+0x1a66): undefined reference to `libiconv_open' font_load_ft.o(.text+0x1af8): undefined reference to `libiconv' font_load_ft.o(.text+0x1b6a): undefined reference to `libiconv_close' The Second problem: loader/libloader.a(win32.o)(.data+0x5adc): undefined reference to `exp_EH_prolog' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status After doing a little patchwork to get around the second problem, the third problem was: loader/libloader.a(stubs.o): In function `_unk_exp1': stubs.o(.data+0x34): undefined reference to `_export_names' stubs.o(.data+0x3f): undefined reference to `_printf' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 23:58:15 -0800 rcooley <rcooley@spamcop.net> wrote:
[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html] On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 00:03:25 +0100 Björn Sandell <biorn@dce.chalmers.se> wrote:
That's what I tried (3.4-current).
Care to list the glitches so they can get fixed?
The first problem I had was with iconv:
libvo/libvo.a(font_load_ft.o): In function `prepare_charset': font_load_ft.o(.text+0x1a3b): undefined reference to `libiconv_open' font_load_ft.o(.text+0x1a5c): undefined reference to `libiconv_close' font_load_ft.o(.text+0x1a66): undefined reference to `libiconv_open' font_load_ft.o(.text+0x1af8): undefined reference to `libiconv' font_load_ft.o(.text+0x1b6a): undefined reference to `libiconv_close'
This is a generic bug; someone forgot a few '#ifdef USE_ICONV' in libvo/font_load_ft.c. I'll look into whenever I have some free time; hopefully someone beats me to it! Btw, as this is a link time error, I assume that you used ./configure --with-extraincdir=/usr/local/include Adding --with-extralibdir=/usr/local/lib would work around this problem.
The Second problem:
loader/libloader.a(win32.o)(.data+0x5adc): undefined reference to `exp_EH_prolog' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
Yepp, the trick is to make sure that loader/loader_objfix.sh doesn't run (e.g. by patching loader/Makefile).
After doing a little patchwork to get around the second problem, the third problem was:
loader/libloader.a(stubs.o): In function `_unk_exp1': stubs.o(.data+0x34): undefined reference to `_export_names' stubs.o(.data+0x3f): undefined reference to `_printf' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
See above :) -- Björn Sandell DCE/DFS Sysadmin IT department Chalmers University of Technology www.dce.chalmers.se
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