I've just found a file which claims to be RV30, but mplayer is not producing any video output from it. The whole window stays black, as if I had used -vc null. If I use -vop mpegpes, then the resulting grab.mpg has zero size. I've tried the versions of drv3.so.6.0 from both the rp8 and rp9 codec tarballs, with the same result. The output of mplayer -v is attached, and I've put the file in incoming/ as `broken-rv30.rm'. Glyn -- Weather's foul, glad you're not here.