It was suggested some time ago that you try -vobsubid, and I don't recal any messages from you stating that you've tried it.

yes, i tried that right away and wrote about it immediately afterwards. as i said, -vobsubid isn't an option for mencoder. there was another comment that a patch for mencoder could add the -vobsubid option, but it's on an old codebase and might not work with the current cvs, and it's now been said that this isn't an appropriate use of the -vobsubid option anyway. also, -sid has never not worked for me with mencoder before, so i'm not really clear why it would require a different option in this case. thanks, -steve diverdi -sdiverdi@cs.ucsb.edu