[MPlayer-users] MPlayer not loading correct font

Alexander Strange astrange at ithinksw.com
Sun May 4 17:07:26 CEST 2008

On May 4, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Evgeniy Stepanov wrote:

> On Sunday 04 May 2008 01:44:05 Krzysztof Duchnowski wrote:
>> Evgeniy Stepanov pisze:
>>>> On 2008.05.03 at 20:46:07 +0400, Evgeniy Stepanov wrote next:
>>>>> Libass does not set FC_STYLE, only FC_WEIGHT. So, something like  
>>>>> "Arial
>>>>> Narrow Bold" won't work (will select Arial Narrow Regular).
>>>> I.e. ass specification guarantees to specify bold/italic only by  
>>>> flags,
>>>> not by name? It's just that ssa specification says "The fontname  
>>>> as used
>>>> by Windows. Case-sensitive", and "Arial Bold" font naming style is
>>>> sometimes used in windows. Not that I doubt you're know what you're
>>>> doing, just interested ;)
>>> Such font names are sometimes used in ASS. Spefication says  
>>> nothing about
>>> which weight indication should take preference, either from font  
>>> name, or
>>> from Bold field. So I'm ignoring the first one :)
>>> It might be a good idea to extract style from a font name (Can it  
>>> work
>>> reliably? There seems to be a lot of different styles, just check
>>> fc-list) and pass it to fontconfig. On the other hand, full  
>>> compatibility
>>> with windows font selection is probably unreachable, and our current
>>> situation seems ok.
>> You don't understand I see.
>> It's not style, this "Arial Bold". It's font name itself and that  
>> is the
>> font. It's bolder in the regular style than "Arial" with bold style  
>> and
>> it have bold style witch is as "Arial" double/triple bolded.
>> And quite the fonts have it that. They are separate fonts from it's
>> oryginal state (dunno why  it's made italics font version if this  
>> same
>> font have italics style but that how it is).
> What I don't really understand is the exact meaning of font name as  
> used in
> SSA/ASS. Is it a family, a family + style, or something else? For  
> example,
> if, as you say, there is an Arial Bold font with Bold style, could  
> 'Arial
> Bold Bold' be used there?
> Earlier in this thread Ottawa Bold font was mentioned. It is  
> specified in the
> script as 'Ottawa Bold', but the attached font file, the one that is  
> supposed
> to match, is 'Ottawa' family font with 'Bold' style. This shows that  
> at least
> in some cases style could be used as a part of a font name.

The font name in SSA is what's in the font's family name under  
"Microsoft" platform. This doesn't have to be the same as the family  
name for other platforms, and for some Asian fonts it's garbage  
because they put Shift-JIS in a field that doesn't accept it... it's  
really gross. Anyway, you can look at fonts' name tables in Fontforge.

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