[MPlayer-users] Re: divx 6

[Ivan Kowalenko]

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On May 3, 2006, at 11.00, Rich Felker wrote:

> On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 11:30:17AM +0200, Matthias Wieser wrote:
>> Am Dienstag, 2. Mai 2006 16:48 schrieb Rich Felker:
>>> On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:35:45AM +0200, Matthias Wieser wrote:
>>>>>>> "The archives" refers to mplayer-users mailing list and possibly
>>>>>>> -dev-eng and ffmpeg-* lists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm subscribed to all of those. URL?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not my job. Go read it yourself.
>>>>
>>>> YOU claim that there have been testing fallacies which doom9  
>>>> refused
>>>> to acknowledge. I followed the disussion and did not see those.  
>>>> Others
>>>> on lis list did not see them, too. So either prove your claim or  
>>>> stop
>>>> to allege that others are liars or did not read the discussion.
>>>
>>> Apparently you're just as stupid as doom9 himself and don't  
>>> understand
>>> the words IDCT mismatch.
>>
>> The IDCT topic has been discussed to death. This effect is way to  
>> small to
>> explain the worse quality (in comparison to xvid, divx) of lavc.  
>> You have
>> not been able to show that the differences are so large that they  
>> matter.
>
> It's not my job to show that they matter. If doom9 is going to use the
> wrong IDCT it's HIS JOB to show that there's no difference.

Funny, I remember the words always being "Innocent Until Proven  
Guilty," not 'tother way 'round. I think the burden of proof is on  
you, since you attacked the test.

It seems that people are either pretty stubborn, or they don't care  
either way. And on both cases, no matter how much you argue about the  
source, people's opinions aren't going to change (See: Conservatives  
vs. NPR, Liberals vs. Fox News). You've made your point, and  
continuing to argue about it is only going to make you look worse  
(including your use of "colorful metaphors")

[snip]

> The container is absolutely irrelevant to testing codecs. If he really
> cared he could have remuxed into .mp4 with another program, but the
> very fact that he wanted to use .mp4 proves his technical
> incompetence.

How is using .mp4 proving his incompetence? If I was going to test  
MPEG-4 output, I'd check out .mp4. Most programs output to very  
similar MP4 containers. Hell, if I decided to compare to Apple's  
MPEG-4 output, I'd be out of luck if I wanted to use AVI. I'm sure  
there was some reason for the use of .mp4.
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