[MPlayer-users] Re: divx 6

[Matthias Wieser]

Am Dienstag, 2. Mai 2006 16:48 schrieb Rich Felker:
> On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:35:45AM +0200, Matthias Wieser wrote:
> > >> > "The archives" refers to mplayer-users mailing list and possibly
> > >> > -dev-eng and ffmpeg-* lists.
> > >>
> > >> I'm subscribed to all of those. URL?
> > >
> > > Not my job. Go read it yourself.
> >
> > YOU claim that there have been testing fallacies which doom9 refused
> > to acknowledge. I followed the disussion and did not see those. Others
> > on lis list did not see them, too. So either prove your claim or stop
> > to allege that others are liars or did not read the discussion.
>
> Apparently you're just as stupid as doom9 himself and don't understand
> the words IDCT mismatch.

The IDCT topic has been discussed to death. This effect is way to small to 
explain the worse quality (in comparison to xvid, divx) of lavc. You have 
not been able to show that the differences are so large that they matter.

If you want to discuss this further, please send flaimes to my private mail 
account. Keep this mailing list clean.

> Or the fact that doom9 was using broken windows tools (with possibly
> different semantics and bugs)

Which bug numbers are you refering to? Or just plain FUD?

> to do the  
> lavc encode rather than using the mencoder commandline he was given,
> and HIDING this fact from everyone.

1. HINT: Doom9 did a codec comparison (=> libav codec), not a video tool
   (mencoder) comparison. That's why they call it "Codec shoot-out 2005".
2. They never wrote that they used mencoder. There is no "mencoder
   commandline". See yourself: 
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/codecs-quali-105-1.htm
3. They used MP4 format:
   "To level the MPEG-4 playfield somewhat, this year all MPEG-4 codecs will
    be using the MP4 container. Non MPEG-4 codecs will use the AVI container
    or their native container."  (Does mencoder 1.0pre7 support MP4? :-)
4. They are not HIDING anything but they clearly state what software they 
used:
	"To encode I used the following software:
	 DGIndex 1.4.5 & DGDecode
	 AviSynth 2.55 for frameserving (avs2yuv doesn't support 2.56)
	 VirtualDub 1.6.11 for VfW encoding
	 Nandub 1.0 RC2 lumafix to multiplex AVI
	 Mp4box CSV dated November 24th to multiplex MP4"
[...]

> > >> > > Seems you always have skipped the Xvid part :-)
> > >> >
> > >> > I read it just now
> > >>
> > >> I think that speaks for itself
> > >
> > > Read it _again_ just at that moment, to confirm what I said: that it
> > > provides no information. Of course I'd read it before. Now stop being
> > > a fucking idiot and spamming this list with your uselessness.
> >
> > FUD is useless. And your personal problems with doom9 and xvid are
> > useless.
>
> OK apparently you don't know what FUD means either...

Wrong again...