[MPlayer-users] RFC: docs update for "how to create a high quality DVD rip"

[Wayde Milas]

On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 11:46, D Richard Felker III wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 10:21:57AM -0500, Wayde Milas wrote:
> > > So unless you are watching the movie with your eyes closed, intensely
> > > listing for artifacts on your $10000 speaker system, you probably
> > > won't hear a difference. I say probably because I have to allow for
> > > the fact that there will be cases where some people will hear
> > > differences more easily. But those will remain rare cases. 
> > 
> > This is completely subjective.
> 
> All lossy compression is. This is completely aside from the point.

No its not. This thread is about how low a bitrate is good enough so as
not to distinguish from the original. How low is a purely subjective
argument. The thread has gone completely south however and has deviated
fromt his point.

> > Not only that, the tests used
> > make no mention of the gear used so I can't compare my setup to the
> > listning test setup. Thus the tests are completely useless.
> 
> Then do your own tests. I'm sick of self-proclaimed audiophiles
> whining about theoretical considerations and trying to prove they're
> superior without any empirical evidence to back it up.

I have. I can pick out a 96khz vorbis khz stream from a 44.1khz 16 bit
stream every time. Thats all I care about.

Secondly, I have never once taken that tone with you in our discussion.
I take offense to you labeling me a self-proclaimed audiophile. I've
written a good bit of code in the field, a chunk of it which is
opensource and is available on sourceforge.

You can believe what you want about me, but at least I have the code to
backup my ascertations on my qualifications.

What have you written recently? (If you are one of the main mplayer
developers, I've jsut inserted foot in mouth :)

> > $3000 range is not stupid.
> 
> Yes it is.

No its not. Its subjective. I personally think $10k on an home
entratainment system is steep. I think $3k for audio and $2.5-$3k for
video gets you great quality for a reasonable price. Again, this is for
your main home system, so milage may vary.

> 
> > Some people spend that just on thier hdtv
> > set.
> 
> They're even more stupid.

Stupidity is relative isnt it?
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