[MPlayer-users] Free audio codec for .AVI files ?

[D Richard Felker III]

On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 08:56:26PM -0500, Matthew W. Miller wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 01:58:07PM +0100, MrBlue wrote:
> >On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 23:07, D Richard Felker III wrote:
> >> On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 09:29:09PM +0100, MrBlue wrote:
> >> > On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 01:40, Jan Knutar wrote:
> >> > > > i am wondering if there is a free audio codec for .AVI files
> >> > > > like ogg. It should be "free" in the meaning that i don?t have
> >> > > > to pay licensing fees if i sell movies encoded with it. Of
> >> > > > course, it should be supported by MENCODER.
> >> > > Hm, what video codec are you going to use? :-)
> >> > Xvid
> >> Xvid is most certainly not patent-free. And it's lower quality than
> >> libavcodec's mpeg4 encoder.
> >No,it?s not patent-free. But MPEG4 licences cost only 1cent/30
> >minutes.. so selling 1000 hours of video for a 10$ fee sounds
> >reasonable for me, as long as nobody tells me a better way.
> 
> Yeah so why are you using a lower-quality MPEG-4 codec if you're already 
> willing to cough up the licence fees?

Lower-quality? Than what? The only codec that's believed to be better
than mpeg4 is h264, and I don't see any usable implementations of it.

> For what it's worth, here are all the codecs which libavcodec classifies
> as "risky", for patent or other reasons.  This is not legal advice, of
> course, but it's something of a guide:
> 
> "RISKY" ENCODERS:
> mpeg2video h263 h263p flv rv10 mpeg4 msmpeg4v1 msmpeg4v2 msmpeg4v3 wmv1
> wmv2
> "RISKY" DECODERS:
> h263 mpeg4 msmpeg4v1 msmpeg4v2 msmpeg4v3 wmv1 wmv2 h263i flv rv10 rv20
> svq1 svq3 wmav1 wmav2 indeo3 aac mpeg4aac
> 
> 
> For comparison, here are codecs which libavcodec *does not* classify as 
> "risky".  Keep in mind that some are not classified as "risky" because 
> they have to be enabled at configure time.  This is almost certainly the 
> case for mp3lame, for example.
> 
> "NOT RISKY" ENCODERS:
> ac3 mp2 mp3lame oggvorbis faac mpeg1video mjpeg ljpeg huffyuv asv1 asv2
> ffv1 rawvideo

ROTFL? lame? This whole "risky" classification thing is stupid.

Rich