[MPlayer-users] mplayer and xine

gabor gabor at z10n.net
Sun Apr 20 17:50:46 CEST 2003

On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 08:47:59PM -0400, Scott Hassel wrote:
> [Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
> I have to agree. I find mplayer much more to my liking than I believe I 
> will ever find xine.

+i prefer mplayer too.
+simply because i find it more stable... somehow xine is crashing a lot
more times for me than mplayer

+another reason is that it's not so convenient to use xine from the
command line :)

-but i don't think xine can't become better. they chose the
multi-threaded way, and i don't think that a bad decision. that's a
different decision not bad. and i like their plugin-based architecture
too. it's a bit inconvenient when i uninstall something ( for example
arts ) and mplayer refuses to start because it has been linked with
libarts. xine of course starts without problems.

+another plus for mplayer is that it plays a lot more from the more
exotic files ( like mov and wmv and rm (at least imho))

-a big minus for mplayer is the absence of dvdnavigation support. we can
argue about whether it's important to have or not, but xine has it and
mplayer not.

+oh, and did i mention the FANTASTIC telecine-remover/deinterlacer in

-and of course i'd like to be able to switch streams at runtime ( audio
tracks for example) as i can in xine, but that's an architectural
problem in mplayer(g1) afaik.

-and the library based approach of xine: xine, the engine is a library
(libxine) and there are various user interfaces which use libxine to
display the video( xine-ui, gxine, kxine). thisway it';s easy to create
language bindings, for example pyxine ( a python interface for example
), so creating a video player in python is a matter of 30-40lines :-).
did i mention that i love python ? :))

to summarize my opinion:
i prefer mplayer, but there are many ideas/code which could be borrowed
from xine to make mplayer better.

> Heiko Recktenwald wrote:
> >[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
> >Hi, I read Ardis messages why he wants to leave the project, doesnt want
> >to be the maintainer anymore, and besides that I understand such a thing,
> >maybe he even hates the internet now ;-), ok, it made me sad how he
> >compares mplayer to xine.
> >
> >Well, I just did some tests with the actual FreeBSD ports collection
> >version, 0.9.20, and the first thing was to cry "ugly"...
> >
> >Please, please, please dont try to copy the thing.
> >
> >It is not bad, but besides the design, it crashed my (much too slow)
> >machine badly, the interactiv response is very slow etcpp.
> >
> >It is not a bad thing, that there are two players around, even if one is
> >as "good" as the other, both support mpeg video playlists, thats most
> >important for me, with a switch.
> >
> >There are many computer philosophies around, FreeBSDers vs. Linuxer etc,
> >less is more vs overfeaturism, spartanian design vs skins etc, I must
> >confess that I like the classical approach of mplayer more.
> >
> >Bla,
> >
> >thanks,
> >
> >best,
> >
> >
> >H.
> >
> >http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/ -- playlists vs "playlists" etc....
> >
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