[MPlayer-DOCS] CVS: homepage/images arpi-s.jpg, 1.1, NONE arpi.jpg, 1.1, NONE hq-small.gif, 1.1, NONE hq.gif, 1.1, NONE lgb-640k.jpg, 1.1, NONE poncso.jpg, 1.1, NONE team.jpg, 1.1, NONE torgyi.jpg, 1.1, NONE

[Attila Kinali]

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:01:31 +0200 (CEST)
syncmail at mplayerhq.hu (Diego Biurrun CVS) wrote:


> Removed Files:
> 	arpi-s.jpg arpi.jpg hq-small.gif hq.gif lgb-640k.jpg 
> 	poncso.jpg team.jpg torgyi.jpg 
> Log Message:
> unused

Ok, let me first state what i think about this whole issue: "WTF?"
(yes, nothing describes it better)

Now, lets get to the facts:

* Diego is the maintainer of the homepage and thus has the right
  to do with it whatever he thinks is best for the project
  (as long as nobody of the project members complains)

* Diego edited news entries, he accepted that it was a bad idea,
 appologized and has undone the changes. case closed

* Diego has deleted the funpages. Nobody complained at that time
 (at least i dont remember anyone)

* Diego discussed the removal with others, at least with me
 and i agreed.

* The files are not completely removed and they will be not
 lost if we change to svn (where did that FUD come from anyways ?)

* Arpi and Diego dont seem to be able to find a way to get along.


Now, we have a huge flamewar over something that is IMHO
trivial. One thing is that Arpi left the project but still
tries to influence the way how things should be done. 
Another is that Diego does work and this is continuesly
the targeted.

I dont think that the any part of the homepage beside the
parts that have a clearly stated authorship or are artwork
can be copyrighted in a way that disallows the project
(and thus the homepage maintainer) to edit them. There is
also no way that a copyright disallows you to delete something.

I also think that we need both Diego and Arpi.
We need Diego as a hompage and docu maintainer, he is doing
a really great job there.
We need Arpi and his knowledge about video coding/playing and him
as an admin of mphq.

Thus we have to find a way to get them to get along with each other.
But the only way i can think of is to disallow them to answer each
others mails directly w/o going over a moderator. Yes, that would
be a denial of free speach and i dont like it. But it would add at
least a buffer between them and thus help preventing flames like this.

Any other ideas or comments ?


Now lets get us at the mess at hand. We need to state a few rules
on how the hompage may be changed. I suggest the following:

* The hompage maintainer is responsible for the homepage as a whole.
  He has the right to work freely until another team member complains.

* Any content of the homepage maybe changed in the interest of the project
  unless it is clearly copyrighted and can be clearly identified as an opinion
  of a single person. Note that the "opinion" of the team may change and thus
  need to be editable

* Any content item may be deleted as a whole. An content item is one logicaly
  closed entity that belongs together. Examples are single news entries, single
  faq entries, pages describing technical or other stuff, images, etc pp.
  Note also that this means that news entries may be deleted (but not changed).

What this proposal doesn't adress is the problem that mphq is located in an
uni network and that there are rules on what may be hosted and what not.
Unfortunately, nobody but Arpi knows these rules. Arpi, could you tell
us what those rules are ?

And also, one last thing. Arpi, as i already said on irc, i don't like
if you threaten the project with shuting down mphq. This might be only a
joke, but it always leaves a bad aftertaste.
And it also makes me feel that we need to move mphq to somewhere else.
(which might be true)


				Attila Kinali