[MPlayer-dev-eng] [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg/MPlayer/rtmpdump possibly searching for a new server and hosting

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On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 04:19:15 +0200
Michael Niedermayer <michael at niedermayer.cc> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 08:04:37PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Kieran Kunhya <kierank at obe.tv>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > On 17 July 2015 at 22:00, Michael Niedermayer
> > > <michael at niedermayer.cc> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 04:16:53PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 03:30:26PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > On 15 Jul, Michael Niedermayer wrote :
> > > >> > > longer awnser,
> > > >> > > videolan IIUC would be willing to host some of our services
> > > >> > > on their existing server but this would require a "quite a
> > > >> > > bit" of work. videolan uses LXC we do not.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Indeed, and there is a good reason for that, called security.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > also videolan of course would have to agree to everything,
> > > >> > > its their server of course ...
> > > >> >
> > > >> > VideoLAN has very powerfull machines, connected in a correct
> > > datacenter,
> > > >> > with a contract, that will outlive any single member.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > Don't take it bad, but seeing the discussions, and the way
> > > >> > you manage your roots and services migration, you don't seem
> > > >> > to care that much about being correctly deployed, but to do
> > > >> > it fast.
> > > >>
> > > >> iam not taking it bad but when you are being told your boxes
> > > >> could be shutdown without prior notice by the new managment,
> > > >> then yes you try to move fast, which is what we did.
> > > >> Not because thats a great thing to do but because it was needed
> > > >
> > > > also speaking of that, id like to take the opertunity to thank
> > > > everyone who helped making that quick move to the current
> > > > servers possible That is at least alex, arpi, fabrice, beastd,
> > > > kieran, reimar, roberto, lou, tim,  ubitux and probably more
> > > > who i have forgotten to list
> > > >
> > > > In principle we could stay at these servers but i think its
> > > > better if we use the time available now to move things to some
> > > > free, higher end servers and hosting and also if possible
> > > > (volunteers) move to something like LXC or qemu/kvm in the
> > > > process and have services properly seperated
> > > >
> > > > That would give us better servers, more robust hosting than
> > > > what you get with a 50euro/mo box. more security and at less
> > > > cost.
> > >
> > > Sorry but this is a bizzare and short-sighted goal. Whilst I am
> > > sure most of the offers mean well it's much better to get help
> > > from the community because at least we know who they are, where
> > > the data is stored, easily contactable etc. The person offering
> > > free hosting could just leave their company and the machine wiped
> > > one day.
> > 
> > 
> > J-B offered that videolan will host ffmpeg. I, for one, would be
> > thrilled if that were to happen. I trust videolan a lot.
> 
> so do i, i trust JB, but will JB still be in charge in 5 years?
> in 10 years? can we trust whoever will come after JB ?
> 
> I think FFmpeg should stay with a "neutral" provider/hoster.

I also trust JB.

But I remember the libav fork and some vlc devels/admins during that
time.

http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2011-January/106458.html

i think vlc would be a good host as long as JB is there.

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