[MPlayer-dev-eng] The future of a GUI

[Reimar Döffinger]

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:27:26AM +0200, Ivan Kalvachev wrote:
> On 3/14/11, Reimar Döffinger <Reimar.Doeffinger at gmx.de> wrote:
> > On 14 Mar 2011, at 16:23, Ingo Brückl <ib at wupperonline.de> wrote:
> >> Clément Boesch wrote on Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:29:40 +0100:
> >>
> >>> You know, there is no urge on making the GUI working fine. GUI has been
> >>> dropped from default and we repeated to users not to use it and look for
> >>> solutions like gnome-mplayer or smplayer. If users see massive commits on
> >>> the GUI, they will think it's going to be better, while in fact, it's
> >>> purely cosmetics; and this is not good. And it also pollute the history
> >>> (not that important thought in this case).
> >>
> >> This gives me the bad feeling that working on the GUI is a complete waste
> >> of
> >> time.
> >
> > There is still a good amount of users left, I am sure they will be grateful.
> > However you are still the only developer genuinely interested. Should you
> > decide to leave before significantly removing GUI "tentacles" (note: more
> > about GUI #ifdefs, I am not that much concerned about using things like the
> > stream_ctrl functions, even though I'd prefer if it didn't) we would
> > probably go back to preparing users for it's removal and most likely do it
> > at some point.
> > Hope that's neither unexpected nor too disappointing to you?
> 
> Honestly, if everybody have given up on the good old GUI, I don't see
> why we shouldn't allow a little bit more freedom to the only developer
> who is dedicated on it.

Of course! Though we should still take care that the general direction
makes sense.
The real reason I objected in this specific case however was that I
had worked in "fixing" this properly before and was quite certain that
doing it properly should be minimal effort, I had just forgotten about it.
Delaying it even further instead of finally improving it would have
been silly IMO.
Nobody should read too much into this.