[MPlayer-dev-eng] mplayer-ww (mplayer fork!)

[compn]

On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 20:28:03 +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 01:06:51PM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 07:19:01PM +0200, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>> > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 09:52:35AM -0400, compn wrote:
>> > > william wangs' pmp demuxer got somewhat ignored when he posted it,
>> > > but since then he has developed mplayer-ww for windows. applying
>> > > sherpya's patches (dsnative, winamp dsp filters). but also extending it
>> > > to support directshow demuxers. also some fixes to opengl/directx
>> > > in w7/vista.
>> > > 
>> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/mplayer-ww/
>> > > http://www.mplayer-ww.com/eng/changelog.html
>> > > 
>> > > his mplayer can play the pmp samples:
>> > > http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/playstation/psp/
>> > > 
>> > > any plans to merge some of this stuff?
>> > > the pmp demuxer could be a good first step.
>> > 
>> > I don't really intend to accept any new demuxers for MPlayer.
>> 
>> I disagree here.  Our demuxers are unlikely to ever get removed, since
>> they are a useful alternative to libavformat.  Plus, the PMP demuxer is
>> much more likely to get ported from libmpdemux to libavformat than from
>> some obscure MPlayer fork.
>
>I don't think there is any significant likelyhood, no demuxer or decoder
>was ever ported to FFmpeg, they were at best "reverse engineered" (in
>case of RTjpeg that's not even an exaggeration) and reimplemented.
>
>> So if somebody cleans up the PMP demuxer for inclusion, I'd say we
>> should commit it.
>
>That would mean spending developer time and review time to add it to
>MPlayer, then spending more developer and review time to port it
>to FFmpeg and the we'd still have only a GPL-only demuxer.
>Having someone derive a specification from the code and then (same or
>other person) implementing it for lavf is a much more sane way to do it
>unless I vastly underestimate the complexity of the PMP format.

i was going to argue that it would be better to have pmp demuxer in
mplayer but now i see reimars' side and i agree with him. its better to
just wait for ffmpeg (i put it on the small tasks wiki).

so my bad for suggesting it, i was unsure about the code quality.

-compn