[MPlayer-dev-eng] 2006 OSDL desktop linux report

[Diego Biurrun]

On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 01:35:06PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 12:35:06PM +0100, Luca Barbato wrote:
> > Diego Biurrun wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 10:17:52AM +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > >> Diego Biurrun wrote:
> > >>> Unfortunately there are many people who seem
> > >>> not to have a problem with critcizing binary driver vendors in one
> > >>> sentence and praising binary codec vendors in the next.
> > >> There are people arguing that binary codecs are necessary:
> > >> <http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/world-domination/world-domination-201.html>
> > >> (in section "Facing the Music")
> > > 
> > > .. and of course they are blathering uninformed crap ..
> > 
> > Blog about it, write an essay, make people aware! I'm not referring to
> > Diego but to everybody. If those journalist don't know about ffmpeg
> > (that obscure thing that doesn't even have a cool logo) I think we have
> > quite an image problem.
> 
> please read the chapter first before commenting too much,

I had read it before and reread the "Facing the Music" chapter just
before commenting.

> iam not saying i agree with it in any way but i wouldnt call it
> "blathering uninformed crap" or not knowin about ffmpeg, the text above
> (http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/world-domination/world-domination-201.html)
> which is writen by Eric S. Raymond
> does mention ffmpeg, mplayer and others it also says that binary codecs with
> a per copy fee are a temporary workaround not that this is what the author
> imagines being the final goal

I disagree with many of the statements of fact made in the article and
with most of the conclusions.  As Luca said, it's probably time to write
something of our own instead of ranting on mailing lists.

> ironically it also recognizes that microsoft does not license their codecs
> unless forced by court, which is exactly what i was thinking first would
> cause this nonsense to fail
> 
> also see
> https://core.fluendo.com/gstreamer/trac/ticket/20

lol

Diego