[MPlayer-dev-eng] [patch] prefer ALSA over OSS

Rich Felker dalias at aerifal.cx
Sun Apr 29 03:00:04 CEST 2007


On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 03:38:16AM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 18:49 -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 11:29:38PM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 22:16 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 03:57:03PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> > > > > MPlayer is a *nix application, not a Linux application, and thus
> > > > > should prefer and endorse the standardized api, not the nasty
> > > > > Linux-specific one.
> > > > 
> > > > OSS is one API and ALSA is another API.
> > > > Which standard are you referring to?
> > > 
> > > Don't waste too much time arguing with Rich. His opinions on matters
> > > such as this can be quite out of touch with reality.
> > 
> > #*&$ off, Uoti. I'm sick of ad hominem attacks.
> 
> First note that what I said was not an ad hominem argument. "Rich
> Felker's arguments about ALSA are false because he is a kook" would be
> an ad hominem argument (attacking the person making an argument to
> discredit the argument). "You shouldn't waste your time arguing about
> ALSA with Rich Felker because he is a kook" is not an ad hominem
> argument.
> 
> The broadest colloquial meaning of "ad hominem", meaning any mention of
> a negative claim about a person (even if true and relevant), does apply.
> I do however maintain that 1) what I said was true, and 2) bringing it
> up was relevant: it was something a new poster to the list should know
> in that situation. I did not phrase it in polite terms, but given your
> past behavior towards myself and others I think that can be excused.
> 
> I think characterizing you as a kook as in the examples above is
> reasonable. The definition at
> http://www.catb.org/esr/jargon/html/K/kook.html
> lists paranoia and grandiosity as the trademarks. For the first we have
> the evil gnome supporters trying to introduce bloat everywhere. For the
> second there are various groups of people such as the Linux kernel
> developers and Linux distro builders who are all total idiots and create
> broken crap because they fail to understand simple facts which are
> completely obvious to you. You do sometimes post technically accurate
> information, but often your kook characteristics also appear in what
> should be a technical discussion.

Thank you for proving my point.

Rich



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