[MPlayer-dev-eng] Lots of stuff for NUT

Michael Niedermayer michaelni at gmx.at
Mon Jan 9 22:50:34 CET 2006


Hi

On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:38:40AM +0300, Vladimir Mosgalin wrote:
> Hi Rich Felker!
> 
>  On 2006.01.09 at 15:28:28 -0500, Rich Felker wrote next:
> 
> > > note, iam sure the end user _does_ care about seeing the subs after seeking
> > > while she probably wont care much about a little overhead or seeking to the 
> > > "optimal" point
> > 
> > Again this is optional. Usually I couldn't care less about seeing the
> > subs after seeking, but I know many users would like to and sometimes
> > I want to as well. In most formats other than NUT, it's not even
> > possible to show the subs immediately after seeking without an
> > unbounded backwards linear search, so I'm used to not seeing them.
> 
> I'd like to insert my two cents.. I know you are in a middle of hot and
> interesting discussion, but I hope user's comments are allowed here..
> 
> mplayer has a wonderful feature, it can show previous/next subtitle. It
> is really useful, when you want to read subtitle that quickly
> disappeared a bit longer without seeking backwards. It works only with
> external subtitles, however.
> Now, in most containers, like mpeg-ps, ogm and mkv it wouldn't be even
> possible to display next subtitle, because you have to seek in stream,
> which of course is stupid. External subtitles can be preloaded, but
> you can't extract subtitle stream from these containers without reading
> complete stream.
> 
> Now, I'd really like NUT to be a container where you can quickly extract
> subtitle stream (at least the text ones), for this and other purposes.
> Ability to add subtitle stream without remuxing the whole file (which
> can even lead to problems in rare cases), would also be great, though
> not that required.

finally someone who likes the idea of non interleaved NUT files :))
well, seriously the idea isnt so bad, rich what do you think about
allowing a very low bitrate "text" subtitle stream to be _repeated_
once at the end or begin of a file in addition to being interleaved?
it would solve many issues

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-- 
Michael




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