[MPlayer-dev-eng] [RFC] change lacv's MPEG-4 encoding options defaults

Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski dominik at rangers.eu.org
Thu Dec 29 18:24:27 CET 2005


On Wednesday, 28 December 2005 at 21:27, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 12:03:26PM -0500, Rich Felker wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 02:48:45PM +0100, Guillaume Poirier wrote:
> > > Maybe with latest Michael's commits, further tests should be done to
> > > find the new best speed/quality tradeoff, but until then, what do you
> > > guys think?
> > 
> > This topic has come up in the past and I've flamed in the past.
> > Defaults should always be all-off. If users are too lame to RTFM they
> > should not hope to get a good encode.
> 
> Nonsense.  Defaults should be sane.  Programs without good defaults are
> a major PITA.  Having to handtune everything is OK for a developer and
> encoding specialist like you, but it is a major inconvenience for the
> rest of the world.
> 
> Also the tradeoff is very bad.  Experienced users will not have problems
> tweaking the defaults if they don't like them.  Newcomers on the other
> hand will turn to another tool.
> 
> Out-of-the-box behavior is important.  I regularly throw fits when
> confronted with software that does not have sane defaults.  Just because
> finding the best defaults is difficult and involves difficult decisions
> and tradeoffs does not mean it is not a worthwhile goal.

Agreed. For example, I use at least mbd=2:mv0:v4mv:trell:cbp for every
encoding job and these seem to be "always win"-type options. Rich said
v4mv is not good for snow, but couldn't these defaults be used on
per-codec basis? I mean different for mpeg4, different for snow, etc.?

I'm definitely in favour of changing the defaults to be more
quality-focused and adding no-options if someone wants to turn them off.

Regards,
R.

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