[MPlayer-dev-eng] Re: Flaming NUT

[ChristianHJW]

Peter Niemayer wrote:
> What is really sad is that while the flame-wars move back and
> forth between Matroska and NUT advocates, the damned obsolete
> ".avi" container remains the most used / best supported. 
> There certainly are advantages in both directions, but the world
> would be a better place if _either_ NUT or Matroska would take
> AVIs place.
> Peter Niemayer

I really wanted to stay away from this list completely, and especially 
not reply to a thread being titled 'Flaming NUT' , but this post of 
yours is so absolutely hitting the nail on its head, i have to express 
my highest admiration to your point of view on that.

As a matter of fact, we have the perverse situation that so-called 
'hardware MPEG4 players' cant play MP4 files, but only MPEG4 video + 
MP3/AC3 in crappy AVI container. How could this happen ? Well, the 
industry reacted to an existing demand, there were literally thousands 
of potential customers having such files and looking for hardware 
devices to play them. Most of those files had been created using 
Virtualdub ( a VfW app ), a DivX codec ( a VfW codec ) and any MP3 ACM 
codec, and of course the result had to be a crappy AVI file, because its 
the standard container for the old VfW framework.

Do you think any of those users creating and spreading those files would 
care about the technical differences between matroska and NUT ?

For that reason, we have realized long ago that the success of matroska 
is 100% depending on the number and the quality of implementations 
supporting it. Right now, we are in the process to go one step further 
and combine it with gstreamer, to form the frist truely open and 
portable multimedia framework ( we ported gstreamer to win32 already ), 
with matroska as standard container, and based on that we want to launch 
a video encoder and editor in the near future.

Good luck with NUT Richard, but you should realize by now that you have 
a long, long way ahead of you .....

Christian
matroska project admin