[MPlayer-cvslog] r26411 - trunk/libmpdemux/demuxer.c

Michael Niedermayer michaelni at gmx.at
Sat May 10 18:54:19 CEST 2008


On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 06:25:35PM +0200, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 05:21:59PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 04:27:50PM +0300, Ivan Kalvachev wrote:
> > > Reimar, please take the Project Leader role and resolve the situation
> > > in the way you like it.
> > 
> > yes, seconded, and my emphasis is on _resolve_. Not the "playing deaf" diego
> > does, the leader should make clear statements, not selective silence.
> 
> I am not a fan of clear statements since my opinions are not clear.
> But if that is what most desire I will try my best.
> And since my opinion and clear statements are asked for:
> 
> > democracy yes or no democracy?
> 
> No democracy. Consensus must be the goal, if that is unreachable voting
> will not fix anything, in particular not if the voting procedure -
> whichever is chosen - can be disputed with good reasons.

What is consensus?

Does a 70% majority imply consensus?
a 90% majority?
can a single developer veto a consensus?
can 2?

How do we determine that a consensus has been reached?
Is diego to be the one to determine it based on his personal oppinion?

Democracy means "rule by the people", no democracy means the opposite, that
is that someone or something else than the people rules.

You say "no democracy" but at the same time you speak of a vague alternative
as if it was exactly democracy.

democracy does not implicate voting. Just that the final decission is made
by the people.

I will reformulate my question, do you want mplayer to be ruled by all
the mplayer developers?


[...]
> > or is the line based on diegos personal feeling? He once wanted to close
> > ivans ffmpegs svn account (that was around the time when he also wanted to
> > close all doc maintainers access to ffmpeg svn), its in strong contrast
> > to how uoti is treated.
> 
> I think that was just an attempt to separate FFmpeg and MPlayer commit
> rights. Nevertheless I would appreciate if Diego and Ivan could find an
> agreement that goes beyond Ivan criticizing at length everything Diego
> does suboptimally and Diego ignoring Ivan's (except for the insistence)
> largely correct criticism, one behaviour amplifying the other...

ivan and diego should meet each other in person, i belive that would help
resolve their disagreements.

[...]
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I have never wished to cater to the crowd; for what I know they do not
approve, and what they approve I do not know. -- Epicurus
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