[MPlayer-cvslog] r26411 - trunk/libmpdemux/demuxer.c

[Reimar Döffinger]

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 05:21:59PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 04:27:50PM +0300, Ivan Kalvachev wrote:
> > Reimar, please take the Project Leader role and resolve the situation
> > in the way you like it.
> 
> yes, seconded, and my emphasis is on _resolve_. Not the "playing deaf" diego
> does, the leader should make clear statements, not selective silence.

I am not a fan of clear statements since my opinions are not clear.
But if that is what most desire I will try my best.
And since my opinion and clear statements are asked for:

> democracy yes or no democracy?

No democracy. Consensus must be the goal, if that is unreachable voting
will not fix anything, in particular not if the voting procedure -
whichever is chosen - can be disputed with good reasons.

> uoti keeps his account no matter what he does or not?

Certainly not.

> and where is the line, how far can a developer go beforfe loosing his
> account?

That is the big problem. The honest but useless answer is "unless the
right people agree a developer costs more than his work is worth".
I seriously doubt it is possible to give clear rule that is worth
anything.
I think something in the direction of non-trivial (> 20 lines) change to
something well-maintained (maintainer usually responds within 3 days,
maintainer is listed in MAINTAINERS) without sending a patch first
and breaking a feature without discussing it on the list first and
refusing to fix (by reverting or otherwise) within a reasonable time
(usually 7 days) is a good approximation though.
This still has obvious issues, like what counts as feature, what counts
as discussion, and how relevant is the result of the discussion.
Hm, that reminds me, does svn-howto state that libswscale belongs to
FFmpeg? This will need to be made clear if MPlayer adapts a different
commit policy.

> or is the line based on diegos personal feeling? He once wanted to close
> ivans ffmpegs svn account (that was around the time when he also wanted to
> close all doc maintainers access to ffmpeg svn), its in strong contrast
> to how uoti is treated.

I think that was just an attempt to separate FFmpeg and MPlayer commit
rights. Nevertheless I would appreciate if Diego and Ivan could find an
agreement that goes beyond Ivan criticizing at length everything Diego
does suboptimally and Diego ignoring Ivan's (except for the insistence)
largely correct criticism, one behaviour amplifying the other...

Greetings,
Reimar Döffinger