[MPlayer-cvslog] r26411 - trunk/libmpdemux/demuxer.c

[Ivan Kalvachev]

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:29 AM, Balatoni Denes <dbalatoni at interware.hu> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>  Wednesday 07 May 2008 01:10-kor Diego Biurrun ezt írta:
>
> > These mailing lists are not a good place to resolve conflicts.  There
>  > are far too many destructive flamers around.
>
>  Thanks for the credit Diego :)
>  I have not partcipated in the discussion before, but now that you ask, I will
>  say that IMO it is not wise to complain about some ancient and not
>  neccesserily consensual "cvs rules" by older inactive MPlayer developers,
>  just to get rid of a newer - but one of the last active - MPlayer developer.
>  I think a more forgiving and constructive environment would better serve the
>  interests of the project.

Where did you get the idea that this is some kind of conflict of the
generations?
You are the second person that puts this speculation, but this is the
first time I see it in public.

In short, this is not true.
Reimar and Uoti are from the same generation and yet Uoti managed to
infuriate Reimar too.  (Reimar also used to be much more active than
Uoti, in fact he still is)
I'll tell it in another way - there are much newer recruits (than
Uoti) that doesn't cause any kind of trouble. They don't have problem
to follow every advice they get.

The problem with Uoti is that he doesn't accept any kind of advice
from anybody.

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Every project have some rules. Most of the projects don't have them
written because it is enough developers to tell newbies how and why
they do the thing this way.  This is also the reason MPlayer "rules"
are written in patch and commit manuals.

MPlayer project rules are not something ancient put down by faceless
gods, that nobody remembers anymore. They are in fact End Terms of
many old (and forgotten for good) flamewars. Some of the rules have
been revised after their initial writing. Throwing these rules away
would simply restart all these flamewars again.

The problem with Uoti is that he couldn't convince enough developers
to change the rules to his liking, so he doesn't follow them. This
causes flamewar on each commit that break some rule. And there is no
end of it.

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It is completely normal somebody who doesn't want to play with the
team, to be thrown out the team.