[MPlayer-cvslog] r26411 - trunk/libmpdemux/demuxer.c

[Diego Biurrun]

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:03:14PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:08:29PM +0200, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 08:51:17PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 05:23:32PM +0200, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> > > > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:58:02AM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > Besides, hypocrite applies because you complain against iive while you really
> > > did nearly the same to him.
> > 
> > No, I did not.  I did very much *not* revert his commits without any
> > discussion or expressing dissent.
> 
> You commited to code maintained by him, he commited to code maintained by you
> That part is the same ...

"That part", yes, but there is a difference between committing and
reverting, as you very well know.

> > I ask you again: Why is such behavior not objectionable to you?
> 
> Ivans behavior is objectionable to me but so was your original commit.
> Why cant you and ivan not just accept that you both made a mistake by
> taking an action that provocated the other, deliberate or not?

There is a difference between deliberate provocation and accidental
provocation.

> > This is being done deliberately, 
> 
> I belive ivan thinks that of your commit as well.
> 
> Also if someone bumps into you and you spill your coffee all over your clothes
> and you think that he did it deliberately and as a result you take the little
> bit left in the cup and spill it over his head.
> 
> Who is the evil one?

The one who takes revenge of course since two wrongs don't make a right.
The one who bumps into the other is not evil because his spilling was an
accident.

> > Uoti did not act deliberately in this
> > way.  He did not expect any controversy.  The same cannot be said about
> > Ivan.
> 
> I belive that ivan belives that you did it intentionally.
> Besides you, ivan and uoti are all totally incapable of resolving the
> controversy they caused non deliberately.
> 
> Neither of you is capable to just say "sorry, i thought that wouldnt be
> controversal, ill revert and we can discuss what course of action that would
> satisfy everyone involved"

I already said that I did not expect this to be controversial.  I can of
course restate that if it makes you happy.

I merely noticed that some renaming work done by Guillaume on the
documentation in 2006 was incomplete and filled in the remaining bits.
I routinely do similar changes to MPlayer without causing any sort of
controversy, I did not expect this to be different.

Also note that Guillaume is the Xvid documentation maintainer and he
also knows his way around Xvid.  The xvid.org homepage and other sources
on the net have been using this name for a long time.

> Its because you all are a bunch of <censored> who all
> know they are always correct and who dont yield 1 hairbreadth.

That's precisely the feeling I have been having since the beginning of
this silly conflict.  I'm glad you know how I have felt.  In between I
was very tempted to speak my mind and fill that <censored> block with a
page full of expletives.

> > You, on the other hand, want to see heads roll the second somebody does
> > something you disagree with, even if it is totally minor, as in this
> > case.
> 
> you are confused, a single polite reply from uoti would have made a huge
> difference to me.

Without a doubt Uoti's behavior is not conducive to amicably resolving
conflicts and I would love if he was not so difficult to work with at
times.  Unfortunately this is a character trait shared by far too many
MPlayer developers.

Uoti did, however, write the following:

  Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 16:57:46 +0300

  I did not expect these commits to cause such controversy. I think it
  should be obvious enough why I don't want to send a patch first for
  every change (it usually causes more overhead than the work needed for
  the actual change). And controversial or not I don't make commits for
  trolling purposes.

> (of course except the commit message noone complained about except himself)

I complained about the commit message, as did Reimar.

Diego