[MPlayer-cvslog] r25521 - trunk/libmpdemux/demux_ogg.c

[Michael Niedermayer]

On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 04:00:38AM +0200, Ivan Kalvachev wrote:
> On Jan 7, 2008 12:26 AM, Reimar Döffinger
> <Reimar.Doeffinger at stud.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 02:01:42PM +0200, Ivan Kalvachev wrote:
> > > On Jan 4, 2008 6:29 PM, Diego Biurrun <diego at biurrun.de> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 02:50:18AM +0200, Ivan Kalvachev wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > > MPlayer project have serious issues from very long time. One of them
> > > > > is the non-transparent and very stagnated way to promote new
> > > > > developers.
> > > >
> > > > That's unhelpful.  What we need are suggestions on how to improve
> > > > things.
> > >
> > > Simple.
> >
> > Simple tends to mean wrong with complex problems ;-)
> 
> You have to prove that point of view.
> Even heard about Gordian knot (wiki) ?
> 
> The solutions should always be simple. Complex solutions usually
> threat only the symptoms and create more problems than they solve.

Complex solutions tend to be too complex to find problems in them thus we
belive they are supperior to simple solutions :)

Simple example: take a box, throw, time, space and matter in there and shake
and out comes mplayer, the earth and the rest of the universe and all other
possible allowed arangements of all matter, time and space.

This is simple, of course you can do it the hard way and sit down and code
as well ... ;)


> 
> 
> Our problem is simple. There are not enough people working on MPlayer.
> So the solution is simple, we need more people working on MPlayer.

yes but we do not only need more people to code but also more people to
review code.

A criterium to accept new developers might be
Write 5 good patches and write 5 good reviews

An alternative would be: give everyone commit access, and wait 3 years
at that point people will have gained enough experience and realized why
various things are bad. And mplayer should become useable again :)

anyway, back to topic (i think thatwas the topic) ... yes iam in favor of
a real official mplayer leader/maintainer (like reimar)

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