[MEncoder-users] Xvid bff/tff field order issue

[Dr.O.Muth at habmalnefrage.de]

When I wanted to open a bug report I noticed one already exists concerning this topic.
( http://bugzilla.mplayerhq.hu/show_bug.cgi?id=1786 )

Surprisingly, when I tried both patches suggested there
NONE of them worked for me.

Now I am lost. 
With both patches mencoder produces videos that are flagged tff as they should be. Good.
Everything looks fine - until I play them on my analog TV.
They are just as jumpy as the bff ones were before.

What? Why?

Is this still a mencoder problem?
Or does my hardware DVD-player assume all Xvid-videos to be bff and thus does not honor the tff flag?
I am confused.

Could somebody please do me the favor to check out these 10 sec. video clips ?
And let me know whether they play fine on your interlaced TV?

H_.mpg 		(7.14MB) is the original tff PAL input file. It plays fine on my computer as well as on my TV.
H_fd0.avi 	(2.99MB) is bff encoded with mencoder -ovc xvid -xvidencopts profile=asp5:.... without -vf phase=t
H_new.avi 	(2.99MB) is tff encoded with the patched mencoder.

Both AVIs play fine on my progressive display but jumpy on my analog TV.

http://rapidshare.com/files/447175514/H_.mpg
http://rapidshare.com/files/447190604/H_fd0.avi
http://rapidshare.com/files/447531027/H_tff.avi

You can get the same files also from here:
http://www.gmx.de/mc/ifMk1jX7JH5fNrXBqPQplFOdUNVIfz

I would very much appreciate any hints, ideas, advice...

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