[FFmpeg-user] [DKIM] Re: MP4s (and M4As) for music

Reino Wijnsma rwijnsma at xs4all.nl
Sat Jun 14 00:06:08 EEST 2025


Hello Mark,

On 2025-06-09T18:30:00+0200, Mark Filipak 
<markfilipak.imdb-at-gmail.com at ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> I also want to be able to play the rip, with visible track titles, so 
> I want to choose a method that's widely supported by players -- my car 
> player for example. (I chose mp4 with chapters because that's what I 
> know and flac-in-mp4 can be played by any video player.) I came to 
> ffmpeg-user to learn of a better way, a way that can be played by any 
> multimedia player.
> [...]
> I doubt that my car player, for example, will play any of those.
You have to let go of that thought. While your car player might be 
capable of playing FLAC, it certainly wouldn't support CUE-sheets. At 
least I've never seen one that does. MKA[FLAC+chapters], same story. 
Very small chance your car player can play it.
If, and only if, your car player can actually play FLAC, then you could 
go the separate tracks/files route, if you actually want to play the 
archived audio in your car. But honoustly, why bother? This is the 
reason why they invented lossy audio formats, because with all the 
sounds in and outside the car while driving sound-quality-wise there's 
no way you'd be able to tell the original FLAC soundtrack apart from a 
well encoded 192Kbps MP3, 160Kbps OGG, or 128Kbps OPUS/AAC file, while 
being a fraction of the filesize.
My personal archived audio is TAK[cuesheet+coverart(+lyrics)] and some 
WV[cuesheet+coverart] when I hadn't yet discovered TAK. For in my car I 
encode these to separate and properly tagged 64Kbps(!) OPUS files. When 
I'm driving I really can't tell the difference between those and the 
lossless original.
I advice you to make the same distinction between archived audio and 
audio for "on-the-go".

-- 
Reino


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