[FFmpeg-user] Does "cat" degrade video quality?
mycraigsl at ymail.com
Sat Dec 3 16:03:33 EET 2022
makeMkV is working pretty well. It certainly is going to save a lot of time in taking the old DVDs and separating them into titles.
I've been suspicious of the name Matroska as I thought it was a format not worth considering.
Hopefully, all will work out.
On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 02:49:24 PM EST, Dan Harkless <ffmpeg at harkless.org> wrote:
On 12/2/2022 11:17 AM, MyCraigs List via ffmpeg-user wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. They are family videos some of which were made with a (I think) "tape eating" Panasonic and then later a Sony mini-DV tape video camera(s). Now I use a Sony video camera that records in MTS to an sd chip. I think the tape cameras produced AVI files (I think...but am not sure). I still have the tapes but can't/won't transfer them from the camera for fear of destroying them (tape eater camera....both).
Understood. I had a Sony MiniDV camera that started getting bad audio
dropouts. At the Sony service center (back in the good old days when
there was a local one), I learned that the cause was my mixing different
brands of MiniDV tapes. Apparently the different lubricants the
different brands use react together to produce a sticky residue. It was
reportedly OK to use, say, Panasonic tapes with a Sony cam, but only if
you *always* used Panasonic tapes. After I got my camera back from the
service center, I only used Sony tapes from then on. Not that that
necessarily has anything to do with your tape-eating problem, which is
probably issues with the transport mechanism, but I thought I'd mention
it since you said you had Sony and Panasonic cameras.
And yeah, the Sony capture application produced AVI files with DV contents.
> The VOB files are from DVD's I made from the tape cameras. It's the best I've got without the aforementioned problems. I don't expect much super quality out of them but they're good enough. Would it be smart of convert them to a format such at mp4 and H.264....for preservation of a common standard?
> As to the MTS files- the quality is excellent. Cat does a great job and I'm amazed how a clod such as myself got perfect results. But....but....perhaps it also would be smart to convert them to mp4 H.264?
I don't think MPEG-2 compatibility will be going away any time in the
forseeable future, especially since the later formats like H.264/AVC and
H.265/HEVC are also MPEG standards. MPEG-2 videos have slightly better
picture quality than they do after transcoding to AVC or HEVC, so the
only reason to convert to one of those formats would be to save disk
space. If you have enough space to keep them in MPEG-2 format, I would
do that. MPEG-2 is also easier for video editing programs to deal with
than the later, more highly compressed standards (especially if you want
to make frame-accurate edits), though not as easy as DV format (the one
used on the MiniDV tapes themselves), since *it* only uses intraframe
compression, not interframe compression.
> I'm pretty old and want our kids to be able to watch these videos in the future when I probably will have broken the social security system.
> Thanks....will look link below.
> Thank you, again...
I don't have a suggestion for the MTS files (beyond using ffmpeg to
concatenate, if cat results in problems at the concatenation points), as
my cameras don't produce that format, but if I were you, I would
which is available for Windows, Mac, and Linux. Rather than trying to
mess with VOB files directly, you can use that application to convert
each DVD to a series of .MKV files (one per "title" on the DVD; you may
or may not have more than one, depending on how you authored them), with
MPEG-2 contents. The nice thing about doing it this way is that there
is zero loss of quality, unlike with apps that go directly to AVC or
HEVC. Also, you don't have to make the decision of whether to
deinterlace to ~30 frames per second or line-double the fields to ~60
frames per second (assuming you're in NTSC land) — you can leave the
MPEG-2 interlaced, and let the player deal with it (not a problem for
modern programs like VLC).
MakeMKV is in a semi-permanent Beta state, so you need to periodically
download new license keys from:
but aside from that, it's easy to use, and is free and open-source. Good
luck with your family video preservation, and cheers.
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